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Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes

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  • torryboytorryboy Member Posts: 459
    edited November 2011
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  • torryboytorryboy Member Posts: 459
    edited November 2011
    WD Jeff Trev scorpio Pomm and Madmoo nice cashes. 

    Hope all is well Mr Burns
  • MRBURNS4MRBURNS4 Member Posts: 1,152
    edited November 2011
    Nice to cash tonight in the 15K BH and sorry Scorpio I didnt see your posting but I didnt even relise this wasnt blackjack lol

    Nice cash toryboy

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  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg Member Posts: 4,146
    edited November 2011
    I'm beginning to realise why sporny posts all these hands. 7-15Deepstack
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    FlyingDagg Small blind  15.00 15.00 5567.50
    mack23710 Big blind  30.00 45.00 4850.00
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
       
    DUFFER820 Fold     
    PhilHutch Raise  120.00 165.00 4165.00
    OORWULL906 Fold     
    FlyingDagg Raise  375.00 540.00 5192.50
    mack23710 Fold     
    PhilHutch Call  270.00 810.00 3895.00
    Flop
      
    • Q
    • 10
    • 9
       
    FlyingDagg All-in  5192.50 6002.50 0.00
    PhilHutch All-in  3895.00 9897.50 0.00
    FlyingDagg Unmatched bet  1297.50 8600.00 1297.50
    FlyingDagg Show
    • A
    • A
       
    PhilHutch Show
    • 10
    • 9
       
    Turn
      
    • 9
       
    River
      
    • Q
       
    PhilHutch Win Full House, 9s and Queens 8600.00
  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg Member Posts: 4,146
    edited November 2011
    And then this in the 9-15 Deepstack.Im starting to get seriously peed off with it. 
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    111bazza26 Small blind  100.00 100.00 6915.00
    rocky61 Big blind  200.00 300.00 4840.00
     Your hole cards
    • K
    • A
       
    AJW1976 All-in  13014.25 13314.25 0.00
    miguelcorr Fold     
    FlyingDagg All-in  5310.00 18624.25 0.00
    bucky1988 Fold     
    111bazza26 Fold     
    rocky61 Fold     
    AJW1976 Unmatched bet  7704.25 10920.00 7704.25
    AJW1976 Show
    • Q
    • 7
       
    FlyingDagg Show
    • K
    • A
       
    Flop
      
    • 7
    • J
    • 5
       
    Turn
      
    • Q
       
    River
      
    • 4
       
    AJW1976 Win Two Pairs, Queens and 7s 10920.00
  • FLASHJONNYFLASHJONNY Member Posts: 2,537
    edited November 2011
    just cashed 16th in mini bh £ 6.83 nohp iknow 1lp thank you jj and scorpio for the railand keep going pom nite all
  • Red_KingRed_King Member Posts: 2,850
    edited November 2011
    VUL Flyingdagg
    You just cant believe some of the shoves being made.
    This one from tonights £2kBH, was picking up pots after bad start, then this,
    If they had AQ or flopped a set, fair enough.
    LOL, LOL & LOL again, NOT
    EASYFIX Small blind  50.00 50.00 4098.75
    bestie07 Big blind  100.00 150.00 6528.75
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
         
    Red_King Raise  400.00 550.00 3950.00
    albania Fold     
    des1967 Fold     
    EASYFIX Fold     
    bestie07 Call  300.00 850.00 6228.75
    Flop
       
    • 2
    • Q
    • 6
         
    bestie07 Check     
    Red_King Bet  400.00 1250.00 3550.00
    bestie07 All-in  6228.75 7478.75 0.00
    Red_King All-in  3550.00 11028.75 0.00
    bestie07 Unmatched bet  2278.75 8750.00 2278.75
    bestie07 Show
    • 4
    • 6
       
    Red_King Show
    • A
    • A
       
    Turn
       
    • 4
         
    River
       
    • J
         
    bestie07 Win Two Pairs, 6s and 4s 8750.00  11028.75
  • scorpio13scorpio13 Member Posts: 691
    edited November 2011
    scorpio13 0 64 £1.13 Head Prizes 1 in mini BH 

    Thank you for the rail guys in both the mini and ME- never really got near a bounty battling with the big stacks, but im glad MRB did better- well done! :)

    Nice cashes Torry and FLASH. Awful calling in your games Dagg and Red- makes your blood boil. Hope you have better luck tomorrow.

    A little cash in the 25gtd- thank you for the rail Pom :)

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  • jjjachjjjach Member Posts: 3,393
    edited November 2011
    WD torryboy mrb and scorpio nice cashes.Ul dagg and red king.
  • jjjachjjjach Member Posts: 3,393
    edited November 2011
    Gl bhoys torryboy and freechips in UKOPS i'll pop in to say hi.
  • POKERTREVPOKERTREV Member Posts: 9,607
    edited November 2011
    Hi TPTers
    I see we are not having the rub of the green with our big hole cards so lets see if I can help.

    Advice to Rectify the problem Immediately
    I see from most of these hands that have been posted, when we have AA, KK, QQ, AK etc, that all the chips are going in. Is this really a good thing when in actual fact we are holding the worst hand (A Pair) you can get in poker.

    Lets think logically, the only hand we are beating pre-flop is a smaller pair, I know those Pocket aces & Kings look enormous pre-flop, but once the flop is down, we are still only beating a smaller pair, so don't get all the chips in at this point.

    Example
    If we are holding KK, AA, and the flop comes down Q98 for instance I can tell you a lot of the time you are going to get beat here. WHY? because most people like myself are going to be playing connecting cards such as 9,8 or QJ - So you can see immediately in this example i've hit 2 pair if i'm holding 98, and also have a straight draw if i'm holding QJ with 2 cards still to come.

    Even if the oppo has called us with KQ, QJ here, he will think he is ahead and is either going to play the hand across the board or call your all in and his hand is more likely to improve than ours because he has more outs.

    Remedy
    Don't get too attached to your AA, KK, QQ - although they can be a great shoving hand pre-flop in certain positions, once the flop is down they only have a "pair" value which is the lowest hand you can have in poker.
    Make the raise 4-5x pre-flop, even higher early on in a tourny 6-8x when the blinds are still small.

    If we get a caller to the flop and its our turn to act a 3/4 or pot bet should be enough to take it down. If we get called here after our post-flop bet, then oppo has most likely hit top pair, 2 pair or even a set. At this point we need to slow the hand down. Check and fold to any shove and move on to the next hand.

    There is nothing wrong with folding big pocket pairs like AA, KK, QQ post flop, just keep saying to yourself - "Its only a Pair" - By letting them go you will be protecting and preserving your stack and most likely saving your tourny life.

    Aim to build a stack slowly rather than risk it all on a pair and I certainly do not advice getting all the chips in with these types of hands once the flop is down. KEEP THINKING!!!! - IT'S ONLY A
    PAIR

    Remember.
    Make the bet BIG pre-flop (We don't want any stragglers)
    Continuation Bet Flop - 3/4 pot at least 
    Slow your hand down if your Flop Bet is called
    Fold to any raise or shove
    Be prepared to fold and move on to the next hand.

    Well good luck fellow TPTers - I hope this helps.
  • pomfrittespomfrittes Member Posts: 2,981
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Trev) Tribulations & Cashes:
    Hi TPTers I see we are not having the rub of the green with our big hole cards so lets see if I can help. Advice to Rectify the problem Immediately I see from most of these hands that have been posted, when we have AA, KK, QQ, AK etc, that all the chips are going in. Is this really a good thing when in actual fact we are holding the worst hand (A Pair) you can get in poker. Lets think logically, the only hand we are beating pre-flop is a smaller pair, I know those Pocket aces & Kings look enormous pre-flop, but once the flop is down, we are still only beating a smaller pair, so don't get all the chips in at this point. Example If we are holding KK, AA, and the flop comes down Q98 for instance I can tell you a lot of the time you are going to get beat here. WHY? because most people like myself are going to be playing connecting cards such as 9,8 or QJ - So you can see immediately in this example i've hit 2 pair if i'm holding 98, and also have a straight draw if i'm holding QJ with 2 cards still to come. Even if the oppo has called us with KQ, QJ here, he will think he is ahead and is either going to play the hand across the board or call your all in and his hand is more likely to improve than ours because he has more outs. Remedy Don't get too attached to your AA, KK, QQ - although they can be a great shoving hand pre-flop in certain positions, once the flop is down they only have a "pair" value which is the lowest hand you can have in poker. Make the raise 4-5x pre-flop, even higher early on in a tourny 6-8x when the blinds are still small. If we get a caller to the flop and its our turn to act a 3/4 or pot bet should be enough to take it down. If we get called here after our post-flop bet, then oppo has most likely hit top pair, 2 pair or even a set. At this point we need to slow the hand down. Check and fold to any shove and move on to the next hand. There is nothing wrong with folding big pocket pairs like AA, KK, QQ post flop, just keep saying to yourself - "Its only a Pair" - By letting them go you will be protecting and preserving your stack and most likely saving your tourny life. Aim to build a stack slowly rather than risk it all on a pair and I certainly do not advice getting all the chips in with these types of hands once the flop is down. KEEP THINKING!!!! - IT'S ONLY A PAIR Remember. Make the bet BIG pre-flop (We don't want any stragglers) Continuation Bet Flop - 3/4 pot at least  Slow your hand down if your Flop Bet is called Fold to any raise or shove Be prepared to fold and move on to the next hand. Well good luck fellow TPTers - I hope this helps.
    Posted by POKERTREV

       Excellent post Trev, just wish you had posted this 24 hours ago m8. See below for a classic example, last nights mini
       12 players left.


      
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    RICEONE Small blind  1500.00 1500.00 29971.86
    pomfrittes Big blind  3000.00 4500.00 157002.59
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
         
    PokerPaul2 Fold     
    elsworth02 Fold     
    sascha2026 Raise  9000.00 13500.00 140320.86
    RICEONE Fold     
    pomfrittes Raise  24000.00 37500.00 133002.59
    sascha2026 Call  18000.00 55500.00 122320.86
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • 2
    • 5
         
    pomfrittes Bet  55500.00 111000.00 77502.59
    sascha2026 All-in  122320.86 233320.86 0.00
    pomfrittes Call  66820.86 300141.72 10681.73
    pomfrittes Show
    • K
    • K
       
    sascha2026 Show
    • 5
    • 5
       
    Turn
       
    • J
         
    River
       
    • Q
         
    sascha2026 Win Three 5s 300141.72  300141.72



     
  • pomfrittespomfrittes Member Posts: 2,981
    edited November 2011


      My little cash in last nights mini which COULD have been so much better.
      Big thanks to the railers
    chris-27-010£8.04 + £7.05 Head Prizes + 2 League Points6 
    slimshady9011£6.83 + £20.75 Head Prizes + 1 League Points10 
    pomfrittes012£6.83 + £16 Head Prizes + 1 League Points9 
    PokerPaul2013£6.83 + £15.66
    again, oh and scorpio i had a cuppa. Wd on ur cash




      
  • scorpio13scorpio13 Member Posts: 691
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Trev) Tribulations & Cashes:
      My little cash in last nights mini which COULD have been so much better.   Big thanks to the railers chris-27- 0 10 £8.04 + £7.05 Head Prizes + 2 League Points 6   slimshady9 0 11 £6.83 + £20.75 Head Prizes + 1 League Points 10   pomfrittes 0 12 £6.83 + £16 Head Prizes + 1 League Points 9   PokerPaul2 0 13 £6.83 + £15.66 again, oh and scorpio i had a cuppa. Wd on ur cash   
    Posted by pomfrittes
    Nice cash Pom and glad you had a cuppa lol. Thanks for the advice, Captain. 

    Best of luck and FD to 67, torryboy and freechips in the UKOPS tonight- hope you run golden! :)
  • torryboytorryboy Member Posts: 459
    edited November 2011
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  • torryboytorryboy Member Posts: 459
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Trev) Tribulations & Cashes:
    In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Trev) Tribulations & Cashes : Nice cash Pom and glad you had a cuppa lol. Thanks for the advice, Captain.  Best of luck and FD to 67, torryboy and freechips in the UKOPS tonight- hope you run golden! :)
    Posted by scorpio13
    Not holding my breath lol.
  • FLASHJONNYFLASHJONNY Member Posts: 2,537
    edited November 2011
    come on torry chin up you can have some ofjonnys lucky dust lol
  • POKERTREVPOKERTREV Member Posts: 9,607
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Trev) Tribulations & Cashes:
    In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Trev) Tribulations & Cashes :    Excellent post Trev, just wish you had posted this 24 hours ago m8. See below for a classic example, last nights mini    12 players left.    Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance RICEONE Small blind   1500.00 1500.00 29971.86 pomfrittes Big blind   3000.00 4500.00 157002.59   Your hole cards K K       PokerPaul2 Fold         elsworth02 Fold         sascha2026 Raise   9000.00 13500.00 140320.86 RICEONE Fold         pomfrittes Raise   24000.00 37500.00 133002.59 sascha2026 Call   18000.00 55500.00 122320.86 Flop     4 2 5       pomfrittes Bet   55500.00 111000.00 77502.59 sascha2026 All-in   122320.86 233320.86 0.00 pomfrittes Call   66820.86 300141.72 10681.73 pomfrittes Show K K       sascha2026 Show 5 5       Turn     J       River     Q       sascha2026 Win Three 5s 300141.72   300141.72  
    Posted by pomfrittes
    Hi Pom.
    Yes a Classic Example I see.

    I certainly hope you can keep this in mind and I hope it helps yours and everyone elses game.

    Good Luck
  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg Member Posts: 4,146
    edited November 2011
    Trevor AA, KK or AK might be the worse hand (a pair) in poker but they are  the best STARTING hands. In the first example I posted villain has raised to 120 and I reraise with the best starting hand possible. Maybe the only thing wrong was the size of my reraise and it should have been bigger but I believe it is still big enough to say I have a big hand you should fold. When he makes the call I have to put him on a big pair or at the least AQ or AJ. Looking back over the hand now I will concede the possibilty he might even have a middling pair and is set mining.If he hits the set  I probably go bust as I know they are many players downfall and impossible to be certain about. With that flop of Q 10 9 rainbow I decided to put him all in as it was straighteng and wanted to make it too expensive for him to call on the draw.  There is no way I'm putting him on 2 pair with that flop.

    In the second example it is easier to analyse. Very laggy player getting very lucky continually stealing blinds going all in to win 300 chips when first to act? Sorry Trevor with AK and the one of the small stacks at the table i'm calling all day in that situation.The shock of them doing that with Q 7 was echoed by at least 2 other players.

    Redking's hand? Well that takes the biscuit.

    I think your summary at the end is pretty close to the way I play and I would sooner win a small pot than lose a big one but sometimes I despair at the way people play. The consolation is that I know I will win in the majority of those hands, but everyone will tell you it hurts at the time.

    I appreciate your post and your doing a sterling job as Captain.
  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg Member Posts: 4,146
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Trev) Tribulations & Cashes:
    In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Trev) Tribulations & Cashes : Nice cash Pom and glad you had a cuppa lol. Thanks for the advice, Captain.  Best of luck and FD to 67, torryboy and freechips in the UKOPS tonight- hope you run golden! :)
    Posted by scorpio13
    Seconded (and Drumahai and Hitman cos they're good guys)
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