Thanks 67 and Trev appreciate that guys. its nice to be constantly learning again, not saying im still not learning with holdem but it can sometimes be a bit automatic with easy(ier) decision's. where as with plo8 im constantly having to apply myself. Tbh any and all advice would be welcome as im still not totally sure of what constitutes good starting holdings to raise with pre, atm I find myself limping in a lot to try and get a feel of it, pathetic I know!! Think ill be on the 50p dyms for a long while yet, of course all advice is welcome and maybe after a few months on the tables ill actually understand said advice!! So im off to my live Sunday night game soon, good luck to every one playing tonight TPT FTW Regards James Posted by LmfaoAllin
Good starting hands in Omaha should be connected in some way, ideally with at least one high flush draw, and a high pair. That way you can flop straight, flush and house draws. an example would be
Ad As Kd Qh
If the Queen was a spade, then you would have an even better hand with 2 flush draws.
In PLO8, there is always a high hand, but not always a low hand, so you should be primarily playing to win the high hand. Your low hand should always be considered secondary. However in PLO8 you are looking for a starting hand that would ideally give you a chance of winning both. Therefore the best starting hands would be
A A 2 3 with the Aces suited to the low cards e.g. Ad Ah 2d 3h A K 2 3 double suited is also a premium starting hand.
Rainbow cards in your starting hand reduce your chances, because you cannot have a flush draw. A A 2 3 rainbow therefore is a great low drawing hand, but not as strong as you would think for the high.
Be careful if you only have two low cards in your hand, as they may be counterfeited if one of them arrives on the board. E.g. if you have A 2 K J, with either the ace or King being suited, you have a good starting hand for the high, and initially for the low, however if an A or 2 comes on the flop, turn or river, they negate the card in your hand for the low. This would mean that you would need 4 separate low cards(8 or under) on the board to even make a low.
Betting comes with experience, but halved pots, quarter pots, etc, makes calculating your odds slightly more tricky than in holdem. My rule of thumb is that if there are 2 different low cards on the flop, then I assume the majority of the time, that there will be a low hand. At this point, you should half the pot into the high pot and the low pot. if you only have a chance of the high, or if you only have a chance of the low, you should disregard half the pot when calculating your odds. If the turn does not bring a separate low, then I usually re-evaluate the chances of a low card arriving on the river.
I hope this helps you with your pre-flop and post- flop betting James.
I'm sure Trev would have been more informative, but he must be too busy crushing PLO8 on Stars or summit.
I'm sure once you have played a few DYMs, you will get a feel for it, if you have any other questions, just post them on here. If Trev doesn't answer them, I'm sure one of us lesser mortals will be able to help.
Very kind of you to take the time to write this up 67 much obliged. and such a comprehensive reply also, thank you kind sir and maybe see you at the tables soon
Hi dont know if should post here or not but here goes. I've been threatened under pain of death may I say.......not to join any other team but TPT by irishrose!! I know a few of you already or have railed you on the tables, geldy and rspca12 maybe even pokertrev..............so am taking the large leap. Fairly new to sky poker so please don't expect miracles if I am accepted. Thanks for reading, hope to see you on the tables. Posted by Darkangel7
Darkangellllllllllllllllllllllllllll
I'm hoping Trev or Dale will see this in the morning. Will get you multitabling in no time lol.
Hope all TPTers are running well tonight - Geldy is going great guns in main so fingers crossed for him.
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : Darkangellllllllllllllllllllllllllll I'm hoping Trev or Dale will see this in the morning. Will get you multitabling in no time lol. Hope all TPTers are running well tonight - Geldy is going great guns in main so fingers crossed for him. Run golden all xxxx Posted by IrishRose
Thanks Rose,
Look what you've started now! enjoyed tonight ul with main.
nice results wheels, lmf., mickzilla, dale, jeffter, everybody rspca & I were frustrated in the Vegas semi where we were the bubble boys but i had a little consolation prize in the roller ty ty for the great rail all, partic from TPT Darkangel, IrishRose who also went deep in it, mattp, matt2, jj, etc £15k SuperRoller 8/147 GELDY 0 8 £600 Posted by GELDY
nice results wheels, lmf., mickzilla, dale, jeffter, everybody rspca & I were frustrated in the Vegas semi where we were the bubble boys but i had a little consolation prize in the roller ty ty for the great rail all, partic from TPT Darkangel, IrishRose who also went deep in it, mattp, matt2, jj, etc £15k SuperRoller 8/147 GELDY 0 8 £600 Posted by GELDY
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : That's what you think Trev is his own man but the number of times I've seen him go against Rose is the same as the number of times I've seen him play PLO8 Posted by GELDY
What's PL08 don't forget i'm new! and can't remember if i knocked you out or you went out before me on my first ever game......lol :P
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : Not a TPT member yet geldy not been approved Posted by Darkangel7
As if Trev would say no. I invoke my limited powers as Vice Captain and say welcome to TPT Darkangel. I've seen you on the rail a lot lately so I'm sure you'll fit in. Please check your P.M's for more info. PS Love the name.
Welcome to the team DarkAngel. Nice to meet you last night. Suggest you avoid railing Geldy too much though, you'll pick up all kinds of bad habits. I'm going to play the DTD tonight. Struggle with more than 2 tables at the same time though, so expect some erratic play! Best Mattp Posted by mattprawn
Thank you for the add to TPT. Was good to meet you too matt as for railing Geldy and picking up bad habits, i've got an unusual style of play like Rose has Totally shattered today though as finally asleep at 3.30 was a good game. Learnt a lot tbf. Good luck on the tables.
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : As if Trev would say no. I invoke my limited powers as Vice Captain and say welcome to TPT Darkangel. I've seen you on the rail a lot lately so I'm sure you'll fit in. Please check your P.M's for more info. PS Love the name. Posted by FlyingDagg
So sat advice taken on board and 1st attempt since got a seat yay!! LmfaoAllin43754Entry to £10,000 B/Hunter So im regin for DTD events now, just leaving for work back 8.15ish so please respect my bb!!! #itsoktofold
Comments
Ad As Kd Qh
If the Queen was a spade, then you would have an even better hand with 2 flush draws.
In PLO8, there is always a high hand, but not always a low hand, so you should be primarily playing to win the high hand. Your low hand should always be considered secondary. However in PLO8 you are looking for a starting hand that would ideally give you a chance of winning both. Therefore the best starting hands would be
A A 2 3 with the Aces suited to the low cards e.g. Ad Ah 2d 3h
A K 2 3 double suited is also a premium starting hand.
Rainbow cards in your starting hand reduce your chances, because you cannot have a flush draw. A A 2 3 rainbow therefore is a great low drawing hand, but not as strong as you would think for the high.
Be careful if you only have two low cards in your hand, as they may be counterfeited if one of them arrives on the board. E.g. if you have A 2 K J, with either the ace or King being suited, you have a good starting hand for the high, and initially for the low, however if an A or 2 comes on the flop, turn or river, they negate the card in your hand for the low. This would mean that you would need 4 separate low cards(8 or under) on the board to even make a low.
Betting comes with experience, but halved pots, quarter pots, etc, makes calculating your odds slightly more tricky than in holdem. My rule of thumb is that if there are 2 different low cards on the flop, then I assume the majority of the time, that there will be a low hand. At this point, you should half the pot into the high pot and the low pot. if you only have a chance of the high, or if you only have a chance of the low, you should disregard half the pot when calculating your odds. If the turn does not bring a separate low, then I usually re-evaluate the chances of a low card arriving on the river.
I hope this helps you with your pre-flop and post- flop betting James.
I'm sure Trev would have been more informative, but he must be too busy crushing PLO8 on Stars or summit.
I'm sure once you have played a few DYMs, you will get a feel for it, if you have any other questions, just post them on here. If Trev doesn't answer them, I'm sure one of us lesser mortals will be able to help.
54,321 being the best
87,654 being the worst
there are five different six high hands available, so even if you have a six low, it may not be the 2nd nuts.
64,321 2nd Nut low
65,321
65,421
65,431
65,432
Even Holdem uses 5 cards to make a hand
2sly4u3950001£45.82supamario02£30.02WHEELS716103£18.57
Very kind of you to take the time to write this up 67 much obliged. and such a comprehensive reply also, thank you kind sir and maybe see you at the tables soon
Not a TPT member yet geldy not been approved
PS Love the name.
Suggest you avoid railing Geldy too much though, you'll pick up all kinds of bad habits.
I'm going to play the DTD tonight. Struggle with more than 2 tables at the same time though, so expect some erratic play!
Best
Mattp
So sat advice taken on board and 1st attempt since got a seat yay!! LmfaoAllin43754Entry to £10,000 B/Hunter
So im regin for DTD events now, just leaving for work back 8.15ish so please respect my bb!!! #itsoktofold
Gl every1 TPT FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1