Well done Chubbers great win. I couldn't quite emulate you but I did my best and after a torrid week on the tables I'm well pleased with the way I played tonight. Fantastic rail support too and not just from TPT players.
Had to post this hand to get some views. This was 2nd time I had 88 in a few hands . Playgame was raising with any 2 but when Sherifoo raises I have to give him more credit for a hand so I just flatted. But then the reraise comes and a call and I felt I had to fold. I ended up folding the best hand and would have been a dominant chip leader. I felt it wasn't a mistake to fold but was it? (irrespective of the outcome)
Due to knowing what I folded 3 handed and HU yesterday , have to say i'd have prob folded as well.
Although If I had of played the hand i wouldn't have flatted shierif007 raise, i'd have re-raised hoping to get rid of one of them, reckoning i'd have had a better chance against one player, especially playgame as he was playing any two...
Only thing I will say in that spot, is it's 4 handed the standard of cards ppl will play is a lot lower.. (pocket 8's by that point are a premium hand, especially as you was chip leader at that point).
WD three and kiwi nice cashes.WD dagg great effort on ft and nice cash.Chubbersssssssssssssss great win and great cash.So happy for you mate.Ul chopper and geldy in DTD.My night weren't great either but with chubbers and dagg playing so well i really don't care.I love being in TPT we have the best team and the best railers.Gl at the tables guys.
well done chubbers n1 wd to all who cashed last night was 2 off the cash in dtd 1 had qq vs 18 and 5s ak he hit a on flop hey ho but doin well anyway turbo ville tonight gl all
Due to knowing what I folded 3 handed and HU yesterday , have to say i'd have prob folded as well. Although If I had of played the hand i wouldn't have flatted shierif007 raise, i'd have re-raised hoping to get rid of one of them, reckoning i'd have had a better chance against one player, especially playgame as he was playing any two... Only thing I will say in that spot, is it's 4 handed the standard of cards ppl will play is a lot lower.. (pocket 8's by that point are a premium hand, especially as you was chip leader at that point). Carl... Posted by chubbers
I thought about reraising instead of the flat call but decided that playgame would never fold to any raise and as Sherrif had reraised playgame I had to put him on a fairly decent hand as I knew next to nothing about his game. I was hoping to see a flop witth the 88 and go from there. But playgames reraise threw me and I considered the possibility that he did actually have a hand. When Sherrif called again I had the prospect of facing 4 possible overcards or a bigger pair from sherrif and my 88 didn't look so strong. Against one player I would have been happy to get all my chips in but I couldn't honestly see either of them folding preflop. Thank god not all decisions in poker are so hard to make.
Get a pack of cards out, deal the same holding cards for all 3 players, then deal the flop, turn & river 4 times over - Probability is (imo) the call could be a losing play in the long run even with their holding cards. 4 handed you are a massive favourite a lot of the time, but due to the aggro play before you and the possibility of getting it all-in 3 way, i'm happy with the fold.
But certainly worth running it 4 times over to see what the outcome would be.
Here are the odds 3 handed pre-flop...... 8h8d = 49.5% to win, 0.5% to draw JsQh = 34.9% to win, 3.3% to draw Jd4d = 12.3% to win, 3.3% to draw
Well done all last night, espesially Chubbers & Dagg - the DTD was great fun and a pleasure to be on the rail with you all.
Well Trev that was interesting. I ran it 4 times and 88 won 3, JQ won 1. I did it another 4 times and 88 won 1, JQ won 3. Knowing odds is definately a weak point in my game and I tend to go off instinct. I guess thats the beauty of poker being able to get the best hand to fold.
Edited to say in reply to Trevs last post : you mean like when they run it twice on tv? no i just dealt the board 4 seperate times.
Well Trev that was interesting. I ran it 4 times and 88 won 3, JQ won 1. I did it another 4 times and 88 won 1, JQ won 3. Knowing odds is definately a weak point in my game and I tend to go off instinct. I guess thats the beauty of poker being able to get the best hand to fold. Posted by FlyingDagg
Did you run it "3 way" as if all three hands were in the pot/All-In?
jjjach has done the draw for the TPT Heads-Up Challenge, so here it is........................
TPT Titanic Heads-Up Challenge
Bye's into Round 2
Round 1 Draw
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JJJACH
KIWINI4U
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JEFFJACKS
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POMFRITTES
BRACEWELL1
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BEARLYTHER
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CHUBBERS
STOKEFC
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WOLVESF474
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TOMRED64
KEITH1960
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jac35
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GELDY
POKERTREV
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FLYINGDAGG
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JEFFTER
Round 2 Draw
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FLASHJONNY
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8
SPURS_13
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9
THREE33320
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10
STEELROD
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11
MADMOO
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Round 1 Winners
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12
v
13
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Quarter Final
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v
16
v
v
v
Semi Final
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v
v
Final
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v
TPT Heads-Up Champion 2013
1. Players should arrange their games at a suitable time & date (Within Reason) for both players 2. All rounds up to & including the Semi Final are "Best of 3" 3. The Final will be "Best of 5" 4. Level = £1.05 Heads Up Standard or Turbo (to be agreed by both players) Not so keen on my 1st round draw jj (You sure you done it right lol
Firstly hadn't ever thought of running hands after the event Trev, great idea, as a lot of my game is determined by the maths, (the one thing I was really good at , at school).I think that's why my online game isn't as good as my live game as I have less time to work things out in my head..
I do believe if you'd have put enough chips into the raise sherif007 would have folded. but Dale you might be right about them both calling. So as your stats prove you made the correct decision..
Secondly, re: HU, will all the players be sorting games out through here, or other means? as i'm sure we'd all like to watch these games.
So was wondering if the games are organised elsewhere, could you post the time you'll be playing then anyone who wishes to watch / rail can do so..
Hi all, Firstly hadn't ever thought of running hands after the event Trev, great idea, as a lot of my game is determined by the maths, (the one thing I was really good at , at school).I think that's why my online game isn't as good as my live game as I have less time to work things out in my head.. I do believe if you'd have put enough chips into the raise sherif007 would have folded. but Dale you might be right about them both calling. So as your stats prove you made the correct decision.. Secondly, re: HU, will all the players be sorting games out through here, or other means? as i'm sure we'd all like to watch these games. So was wondering if the games are organised elsewhere, could you post the time you'll be playing then anyone who wishes to watch / rail can do so.. Carl.. Posted by chubbers
This would be a great idea chubs to keep everyone involved.
So - Once players have aranged a date & time, please post it on here. Also post your results so jj can keep on top of it.
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : I thought about reraising instead of the flat call but decided that playgame would never fold to any raise and as Sherrif had reraised playgame I had to put him on a fairly decent hand as I knew next to nothing about his game. I was hoping to see a flop witth the 88 and go from there. But playgames reraise threw me and I considered the possibility that he did actually have a hand. When Sherrif called again I had the prospect of facing 4 possible overcards or a bigger pair from sherrif and my 88 didn't look so strong. Against one player I would have been happy to get all my chips in but I couldn't honestly see either of them folding preflop. Thank god not all decisions in poker are so hard to make. Posted by FlyingDagg
The only part I would fault you on is this. You are not deep enough to be set mining, you cannot expect not to see overs, and with the action so far you will never know if you are behind or not. Shove or fold - don't call. Given your view on the liklihood that you are called and that you would expect to be racing at best, it's probably a fold. (Although I'm not a short-handed specialist so I don't really know enough about likely ranges, but I agree playgame was playing very loose).
Just to say thank you for all your advice. As chubbers said 88 at that stage is a premium hand and in hindsight I wish I'd had the courage to shove, but with all the pre flop aggression I felt there was a chance that I could be behind. And I tend to go off my instinct as I don't know enough about odds and it's possibly an area where I should be thinking of improving so I was wondering how do you memorise the odds do you have to learn them by rote or is there an easier method?
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Due to knowing what I folded 3 handed and HU yesterday , have to say i'd have prob folded as well.
Although If I had of played the hand i wouldn't have flatted shierif007 raise, i'd have re-raised hoping to get rid of one of them, reckoning i'd have had a better chance against one player, especially playgame as he was playing any two...
Only thing I will say in that spot, is it's 4 handed the standard of cards ppl will play is a lot lower.. (pocket 8's by that point are a premium hand, especially as you was chip leader at that point).
Carl...
Here is an idea.......................
Get a pack of cards out, deal the same holding cards for all 3 players, then deal the flop, turn & river 4 times over - Probability is (imo) the call could be a losing play in the long run even with their holding cards. 4 handed you are a massive favourite a lot of the time, but due to the aggro play before you and the possibility of getting it all-in 3 way, i'm happy with the fold.
But certainly worth running it 4 times over to see what the outcome would be.
Here are the odds 3 handed pre-flop......
8h8d = 49.5% to win, 0.5% to draw
JsQh = 34.9% to win, 3.3% to draw
Jd4d = 12.3% to win, 3.3% to draw
Well done all last night, espesially Chubbers & Dagg - the DTD was great fun and a pleasure to be on the rail with you all.
Well Trev that was interesting. I ran it 4 times and 88 won 3, JQ won 1. I did it another 4 times and 88 won 1, JQ won 3. Knowing odds is definately a weak point in my game and I tend to go off instinct. I guess thats the beauty of poker being able to get the best hand to fold.
Edited to say in reply to Trevs last post : you mean like when they run it twice on tv? no i just dealt the board 4 seperate times.
jjjach has done the draw for the TPT Heads-Up Challenge, so here it is........................
2. All rounds up to & including the Semi Final are "Best of 3"
3. The Final will be "Best of 5"
4. Level = £1.05 Heads Up Standard or Turbo (to be agreed by both players)
Not so keen on my 1st round draw jj (You sure you done it right lol
Best of luck everyone.
OP amended
Firstly hadn't ever thought of running hands after the event Trev, great idea, as a lot of my game is determined by the maths, (the one thing I was really good at , at school).I think that's why my online game isn't as good as my live game as I have less time to work things out in my head..
I do believe if you'd have put enough chips into the raise sherif007 would have folded. but Dale you might be right about them both calling.
So as your stats prove you made the correct decision..
Secondly, re: HU, will all the players be sorting games out through here, or other means? as i'm sure we'd all like to watch these games.
So was wondering if the games are organised elsewhere, could you post the time you'll be playing then anyone who wishes to watch / rail can do so..
Carl..
WP on DTD win chubs.
Managed to bink 1st place in 25 gtd last night for £22 and just had this in 100 freerol, 546 runners, no rebuy or add on.
So - Once players have aranged a date & time, please post it on here. Also post your results so jj can keep on top of it.
Thanks.
FT was great, brilliant rail, thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it...