Hi guys just a quick post to let use know im not going to be playing many tourneys in the coming weeks !!! I have a 150 quid roll and im going to have a propa crack of playing micro stakes cash, might play a few sats for the main but I am going to have a serious pop at the cash tables ! I have had a dabble at cash in the past but i have never really took it serious but im going to 5 table 2p 4p ! I am useless at playing cash as i get bored but im hoping that upping the amount of tables il be able to keep focused, I have started to realize that there is less variece involved at the cash tables and if i want to create a really big role i need to beat the lower stakes, I could make a big deposit and play higher but i feel il get eaten up by the regs at the higher stakes !! anyways im sure il go broke within a week im that bad !!! gl guys
Hi guys just a quick post to let use know im not going to be playing many tourneys in the coming weeks !!! I have a 150 quid roll and im going to have a propa crack of playing micro stakes cash, might play a few sats for the main but I am going to have a serious pop at the cash tables ! I have had a dabble at cash in the past but i have never really took it serious but im going to 5 table 2p 4p ! I am useless at playing cash as i get bored but im hoping that upping the amount of tables il be able to keep focused, I have started to realize that there is less variece involved at the cash tables and if i want to create a really big role i need to beat the lower stakes, I could make a big deposit and play higher but i feel il get eaten up by the regs at the higher stakes !! anyways im sure il go broke within a week im that bad !!! gl guys Posted by K8LOU
Little one in the bh.I'm losing so many races when i'm so far ahead pre it's unreal.Months of run bad.I'll go to sunday then i'll have a long break if i'm not getting a fair crack of the whip. jjjach017£3.93 Head Prizes3
Finished at 2013-09-06 13:48:13Registered15 / 10001nidge82 - £2000 Mini B/H2haylez83 - £2000 Mini B/H3billybub06 - £2000 Mini B/H after trying to sat into main event last night 0 from 11 entries into mini at first attempt
also another question: if you are sat with AK and there are too all ins before would you call?, trying to find out what to play in the longterm. many thanks in advance Posted by haylez83
Haylez there is no definitive answer, it very much depends on a number of factors. Are both allins short stacked? Is only 1 short and the other player has shoved to isolate? What stage are we at in the tourney? What is there playing style loose or tight? Sometimes it will be a fold sometimes it will be a call. The main factor is your stack if you don't need to get involved then I'ts a fold probably but as I say depends on a whole lot of factors.
Hi Haylez I have tidied up the hand a little (See Below)
Ciders1d
Small blind
200
200
30455
offshoot
Big blind
400
600
16527.5
Your hole cards
Q Spades
A Diamonds
mrparish82
Fold
haylez83
Raise
800
1400
7195
JSTFLIPPIN (Button)
Fold
Ciders1d
Fold
offshoot
Call
400
1800
16127.5
Flop
4 Clubs
8 Diamonds
Q Hearts
offshoot
Check
haylez83
Check
Turn
6 Diamonds
offshoot
Bet
1350
3150
14777.5
haylez83
All-in
7195
10345
0
offshoot
Call
5845
16190
8932.5
River
5 spades
offshoot
Show
7 Diamonds
Q Diamonds
haylez83
Show
Q Spades
A Diamonds
Firstly - I don't like the min raise preflop - 2 x raise here imo Secondly - Why Check the flop when you have hit top pair (Don't give them free cards unless you are holding the nuts) Once you give him his other diamond for free, he is always coming along for the ride.
Thirdly - The all-in aggro bet at the end looks a bit weak after your check on the flop, so oppo is always calling with his top pair / flush draw & gutshot straight draw. Also, we are never getting oppo to fold if we put him on the flush draw either. He has to make a call of 5.8K to win what is now a 16K pot.
A bigger bet pre-flop and then a continuation bet on the flop will get the job done most instances, after that I just check fold down the streets if he has shown strength by calling my continuation bet on the flop.
Hi Haylez I have tidied up the hand a little (See Below) Ciders1d Small blind 200 200 30455 offshoot Big blind 400 600 16527.5 Your hole cards Q Spades A Diamonds mrparish82 Fold haylez83 Raise 800 1400 7195 JSTFLIPPIN (Button) Fold Ciders1d Fold offshoot Call 400 1800 16127.5 Flop 4 Clubs 8 Diamonds Q Hearts offshoot Check haylez83 Check Turn 6 Diamonds offshoot Bet 1350 3150 14777.5 haylez83 All-in 7195 10345 0 offshoot Call 5845 16190 8932.5 River 5 spades offshoot Show 7 Diamonds Q Diamonds haylez83 Show Q Spades A Diamonds Firstly - I don't like the min raise preflop - 2 x raise here imo Secondly - Why Check the flop when you have hit top pair (Don't give them free cards unless you are holding the nuts) Once you give him his other diamond for free, he is always coming along for the ride. Thirdly - The all-in aggro bet at the end looks a bit weak after your check on the flop, so oppo is always calling with his top pair / flush draw & gutshot straight draw. Also, we are never getting oppo to fold if we put him on the flush draw either. He has to make a call of 5.8K to win what is now a 16K pot. A bigger bet pre-flop and then a continuation bet on the flop will get the job done most instances, after that I just check fold down the streets if he has shown strength by calling my continuation bet on the flop. Posted by POKERTREV
a min raise is a 2x raise. Min raising is fine at these blind levels imo....agree with the rest
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : Haylez there is no definitive answer, it very much depends on a number of factors. Are both allins short stacked? Is only 1 short and the other player has shoved to isolate? What stage are we at in the tourney? What is there playing style loose or tight? Sometimes it will be a fold sometimes it will be a call. The main factor is your stack if you don't need to get involved then I'ts a fold probably but as I say depends on a whole lot of factors. Posted by FlyingDagg
thanks very much dagg, that would make a lot of sence it happened to me last night and i folded i just thought i hope i have done the right thing.
it turned out i would of won as the short stavk had j10 and the larger stack had a3, but like you say no point getting involved if i dont need to.
Hi Haylez I have tidied up the hand a little (See Below) Ciders1d Small blind 200 200 30455 offshoot Big blind 400 600 16527.5 Your hole cards Q Spades A Diamonds mrparish82 Fold haylez83 Raise 800 1400 7195 JSTFLIPPIN (Button) Fold Ciders1d Fold offshoot Call 400 1800 16127.5 Flop 4 Clubs 8 Diamonds Q Hearts offshoot Check haylez83 Check Turn 6 Diamonds offshoot Bet 1350 3150 14777.5 haylez83 All-in 7195 10345 0 offshoot Call 5845 16190 8932.5 River 5 spades offshoot Show 7 Diamonds Q Diamonds haylez83 Show Q Spades A Diamonds Firstly - I don't like the min raise preflop - 2 x raise here imo Secondly - Why Check the flop when you have hit top pair (Don't give them free cards unless you are holding the nuts) Once you give him his other diamond for free, he is always coming along for the ride. Thirdly - The all-in aggro bet at the end looks a bit weak after your check on the flop, so oppo is always calling with his top pair / flush draw & gutshot straight draw. Also, we are never getting oppo to fold if we put him on the flush draw either. He has to make a call of 5.8K to win what is now a 16K pot. A bigger bet pre-flop and then a continuation bet on the flop will get the job done most instances, after that I just check fold down the streets if he has shown strength by calling my continuation bet on the flop. Posted by POKERTREV
Thanks trev, i just tried to copy and paste but it looked strange.
thanks again for the advice, i am a little confused as on skypoker the experts have said that it is best to min raise which i dont agree with as you say if i 2x or 3x raise i probably win the pot.
many thanks for your thought i will certainly take them on board.
My plan was to min raise and hopefully get raised then to push the issue but it didnt go to plan full of mistakes but i can feel the improvment just need to keep listening to you guys and hopefully get rid of these mistakes in my game.
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : a min raise is a 2x raise. Min raising is fine at these blind levels imo....agree with the rest Posted by waller02
thanks waller, i heard it on 861 min raise so i just did the smallest raise think i must of misunderstood somewhere but hey onwards and upwards if i can keep getting adivce and tips from my team mates i am sure i will improve in time.
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : a min raise is a 2x raise. Min raising is fine at these blind levels imo....agree with the rest Posted by waller02
Soz for the confusion - I meant 2 x the pot, so a bet of 1200
We help ourseves in 2 ways..........hands like Q7s may fold and we pick up the blinds or if they come along for the ride then we have inflated the pot, we then use our continuation bet and a lot of the time the "any 2" cards will have to fold at this point.
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : Soz for the confusion - I meant 2 x the pot, so a bet of 1200 We help ourseves in 2 ways..........hands like Q7s may fold and we pick up the blinds or if they come along for the ride then we have inflated the pot, we then use our continuation bet and a lot of the time the "any 2" cards will have to fold at this point. Posted by POKERTREV
I still disagree.....min raising is fine. By raising less it allows us to cbet less. We don't want to inflate the pot too much at this point because 2 out of 3 times we miss the flop. The majority of the time, if somebody is calling a min raise pre then they will also be calling a 3x pre.
If we raise 1200 and get called the the pot is at least 2600 meaning realistically a cbet will have to be around 1/2 pot....1300. If we have missed and get some resistance then we have lost 2500 chips
If we raise 800 and get called the pot is around 1800 meaning our cbet can be around 900. Again, if we have missed and get resistance we have lost 1700 chips......we need to be preserving chips at this stage of the tournament just as much as we are trying to win them.
If we hit we can start inflating the pot anyway. Min raising in the mid/late stages is always best imo (unless there have been limpers).
In Response to Re: Official - TPT (Team Poker Titans) Tribulations & Cashes : Soz for the confusion - I meant 2 x the pot, so a bet of 1200 We help ourseves in 2 ways..........hands like Q7s may fold and we pick up the blinds or if they come along for the ride then we have inflated the pot, we then use our continuation bet and a lot of the time the "any 2" cards will have to fold at this point. Posted by POKERTREV
Trev Trev Trev. Was just gonna drop by to wish anyone playing SPT Newcastle good luck but then I see this above! Ignore him Hayley, he might be your captain but when blinds are 200/400 then a minraise is absolutely fine
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Best of Luck to ALL TPTers Playing the SPT Newcastle this weekend.
Have a few for me guys, i'm sure you will all do TPT proud..........
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Good Luck.
was i too agro at the end or was it standard, please advise team.
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also another question:
if you are sat with AK and there are too all ins before would you call?, trying to find out what to play in the longterm.
many thanks in advance
after trying to sat into main event last night 0 from 11 entries into mini at first attempt
I have tidied up the hand a little (See Below)
Secondly - Why Check the flop when you have hit top pair (Don't give them free cards unless you are holding the nuts) Once you give him his other diamond for free, he is always coming along for the ride.
Thirdly - The all-in aggro bet at the end looks a bit weak after your check on the flop, so oppo is always calling with his top pair / flush draw & gutshot straight draw.
Also, we are never getting oppo to fold if we put him on the flush draw either. He has to make a call of 5.8K to win what is now a 16K pot.
A bigger bet pre-flop and then a continuation bet on the flop will get the job done most instances, after that I just check fold down the streets if he has shown strength by calling my continuation bet on the flop.
Soz for the confusion - I meant 2 x the pot, so a bet of 1200
We help ourseves in 2 ways..........hands like Q7s may fold and we pick up the blinds or if they come along for the ride then we have inflated the pot, we then use our continuation bet and a lot of the time the "any 2" cards will have to fold at this point.
If we raise 1200 and get called the the pot is at least 2600 meaning realistically a cbet will have to be around 1/2 pot....1300. If we have missed and get some resistance then we have lost 2500 chips
If we raise 800 and get called the pot is around 1800 meaning our cbet can be around 900. Again, if we have missed and get resistance we have lost 1700 chips......we need to be preserving chips at this stage of the tournament just as much as we are trying to win them.
If we hit we can start inflating the pot anyway. Min raising in the mid/late stages is always best imo (unless there have been limpers).