Another losing NL4 session, some hands

The_Don90

1. I played this badly i think. Expeshially the river.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Yeoman38	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.04
teddy991	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.48
	Your hole cards	Q A
The_Don90	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£4.24
parkway	Fold
Yeoman38	Fold
teddy991	Call		£0.16	£0.42	£3.32
Flop
		10 10 6
teddy991	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.32	£0.74	£3.92
teddy991	Call		£0.32	£1.06	£3.00
Turn
		8
teddy991	Check
The_Don90	Check
River
		6
teddy991	Bet		£0.53	£1.59	£2.47
The_Don90	Call		£0.53	£2.12	£3.39
teddy991	Show	8 8
The_Don90	Muck	Q A
teddy991	Win	Full House, 8s and 10s	£1.96		£4.43

2. Standard i think, maybe overplaying the hand a little?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
berni	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£8.34
painn	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£1.39
	Your hole cards	A J
JINTY	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£3.70
The_Don90	Raise		£0.28	£0.38	£3.70
Karaoke	Fold
berni	Fold
painn	Call		£0.24	£0.62	£1.15
JINTY	Call		£0.24	£0.86	£3.46
Flop
		4 7 J
painn	Check
JINTY	Bet		£0.04	£0.90	£3.42
The_Don90	Raise		£0.75	£1.65	£2.95
painn	All-in		£1.15	£2.80	£0.00
JINTY	Fold
The_Don90	Call		£0.40	£3.20	£2.55
painn	Show	7 7
The_Don90	Show	A J
Turn
		2
River
		Q
painn	Win	Three 7s	£2.96		£2.96

3. Post flop is a cooler. On the pre im wanting to discuss here.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
parkway	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.37
teddy991	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.46
	Your hole cards	J 10
toonborr	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£0.92
The_Don90	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£5.32
DEVILFI5H	Fold
parkway	Raise		£0.14	£0.28	£1.23
teddy991	Fold
toonborr	Call		£0.12	£0.40	£0.80
The_Don90	Call		£0.12	£0.52	£5.20
Flop
		2 A A
parkway	Check
toonborr	Check
The_Don90	Check
Turn
		8
parkway	Bet		£0.26	£0.78	£0.97
toonborr	Call		£0.26	£1.04	£0.54
The_Don90	Raise		£1.56	£2.60	£3.64
parkway	Fold
toonborr	All-in		£0.54	£3.14	£0.00
The_Don90	Unmatched bet		£0.76	£2.38	£4.40
toonborr	Show	A 2
The_Don90	Show	J 10
River
		10
toonborr	Win	Full House, Aces and 2s	£2.20		£2.20

4. Little confused about this one. Despite everything i hit on the flop (TPTK - GS) i hate the flop. Opinions would be great.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
SIMONBLUE2	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.34
sofalout	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.92
	Your hole cards	K A
painn	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£4.65
Bins454	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£0.32	£0.42	£3.48
topman0705	Call		£0.32	£0.74	£2.47
SIMONBLUE2	Call		£0.30	£1.04	£2.04
sofalout	Fold
painn	Fold
Flop
		K J 10
SIMONBLUE2	Check
The_Don90	Check
topman0705	Check
Turn
		8
SIMONBLUE2	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.78	£1.82	£2.70
topman0705	Fold
SIMONBLUE2	Fold
The_Don90	Muck
The_Don90	Win		£0.96		£3.66
The_Don90	Return		£0.78	£0.08	£4.44

5. On this one i want to discuss specifically the river. Should i be shoving for value?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
breffnilad	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.42
chaper	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£4.14
	Your hole cards	J A
COCKNHEN	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£15.73
Exiguous99	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£0.28	£0.38	£3.74
breffnilad	Fold
chaper	Fold
COCKNHEN	Call		£0.24	£0.62	£15.49
Flop
		J 4 10
COCKNHEN	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.47	£1.09	£3.27
COCKNHEN	Call		£0.47	£1.56	£15.02
Turn
		7
COCKNHEN	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£1.17	£2.73	£2.10
COCKNHEN	Call		£1.17	£3.90	£13.85
River
		4
COCKNHEN	Bet		£1.00	£4.90	£12.85
The_Don90	Call		£1.00	£5.90	£1.10
COCKNHEN	Show	6 9
The_Don90	Show	J A
The_Don90	Win	Two Pairs, Jacks and 4s	£5.45		£6.55

6. Overall on this hand im not sure what to make of it at all. Pre i just forget how to play Small PPs at this level. Too long playing tournys and still got that tourny head on a little. Raise seemed the best opinion. But at this level is it? The flop a bit of a hit and miss really is cbetting fine?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Yeoman38	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.79
planet432	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£8.89
	Your hole cards	7 7
Yeayea77	Fold
The_Don90	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£3.74
lgs6k	Fold
parkway	Call		£0.20	£0.46	£0.82
Yeoman38	Call		£0.18	£0.64	£1.61
planet432	Call		£0.16	£0.80	£8.73
Flop
		5 6 8
Yeoman38	Check
planet432	Check
The_Don90	Bet		£0.60	£1.40	£3.14
parkway	Fold
Yeoman38	Fold
planet432	Fold
The_Don90	Muck
The_Don90	Win		£0.74		£3.88
The_Don90	Return		£0.60	£0.06	£4.48

grantorino

Jesus, thats a lot of hands. I dont like your open sizes

1. I sometimes check flop, if i bet it Im barrelling most turns esp that one. River meh its prob a fold, dont hate the call
2 nh
3 openfold pre, effective stacks too small. If I do play it I raise, I prob fold to the raise after limping even getting those odds
4 bet flop, I prob b/f without good reads
5 river call is ok I think this is nearly always a badly played monster or a hand that cant call a raise
6 nh

percival09

wow a lot of hands, i'll do my best

1/ definitely c/f river, other than that hand is played fine - you don't wanna pay those sort of value bets off readless, i used to make that mistake so often

2/ ok

3/ i just hardly ever limp pre in 6-max, i know what you're gonna say, villain is short stacked and if you raise he might shove and you don't wanna call off with J high, you'd rather see a cheap flop with a nice hand .... but just fold .. it's no problem .. post flop is ok

4/ pretty standard flop c-bet imo

5/ readless i'd just flat river but there are situations i shove

6/ played fine, i'm no expert at NL4 but i'm definitely raising in that spot

Dudeskin8

1. Pre good, flop good, turn good, river probably fold as most likely calling for split.

2. All good.

3. Raise or fold pre I lean towards fold as short stack could easily jam and you can't call with J high.

4. Pre good, flop bet 75%+, why the **** are you checking ?

5. Pre, flop and turn good, river I shove here.

6. Raise pre good, flop against 3 players not sure if cbet is right but it's not awful.

GREGHOGG

not read the other replies.. so im testing myself too lol

1. i would bet turn also , and fold river as played.2. fine. not overplayed at all, although im making my preflop slightly smaller like 20p3.Im raising or folding pre. with 10j (im making it 16/20p) I dont limp even at nl4 unless im in late position with a small pair or suited ace. Obv get it in on the turn is fine.4. Bet the flop! you may hate it but you could still have best hand, and by
checking you are losing value. as played bet bigger on the turn5. I would flat the river i think, because he could have the "4"6. played fine,, but i make my raises slightly smaller like 16p. and yes I would c bet that board every time with our holding.