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Overs + NFD shove or fold?

Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
edited August 2011 in The Poker Clinic
X is basically dead money seen flat 4x pre then call off stack over 3 streets on 10 high board.

Y have no notes on.

Also is AQ a 3betting hand pre, I just flatted as didn't want to get shoved on plus have position.
x Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £4.05
marc25497 Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £4.66
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • A
     
donny888 Call   £0.08 £0.20 £6.36
jimifloyd Fold        
y Raise   £0.16 £0.36 £5.58
Dudeskin8 Call   £0.16 £0.52 £11.88
x Raise   £0.20 £0.72 £3.85
marc25497 Call   £0.16 £0.88 £4.50
donny888 Fold        
y Call   £0.08 £0.96 £5.50
Dudeskin8 Call   £0.08 £1.04 £11.80
Flop
   
  • 4
  • 6
  • 8
     
x Bet   £0.20 £1.24 £3.65
marc25497 Fold        
y Raise   £1.28 £2.52 £4.22
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  • PiAnOpLaYaPiAnOpLaYa Member Posts: 554
    edited August 2011
    on the button i prob 3 bet.

    As you have only invested a small amount I Prob just fold.

    Dont see y folding to a Jam and if you call and hit do you still get paid off?
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited August 2011
    Shippit!
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2011
    you can 3bet here, calling fine readless

    Any reads at all on y? meh prob 3bet and get it in, I dont think folding is bad either though
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  • LLCooLDLLCooLD Member Posts: 78
    edited August 2011
    depends how deep you are, how early you are in the tournament might make a difference.

    Im not the sort of person who likes to get my 15,000 chips in at 25-50 with a draw lol. 

    anything around 30BB and Im shipping everyday of the week.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Overs + NFD shove or fold?:
    depends how deep you are, how early you are in the tournament might make a difference. Im not the sort of person who likes to get my 15,000 chips in at 25-50 with a draw lol.  anything around 30BB and Im shipping everyday of the week.
    Posted by LLCooLD
    its a cash game hes 50BB deep with 1 villain, about 70 with the other, its all in the hh
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited August 2011
    3 bet this position no problem

    ALL IN BABY ON FLOP !
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  • CodexCodex Member Posts: 211
    edited August 2011
    agree with Rancid
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited August 2011
    I like the flat on the button in this spot level/  They arent really folding and you get the bonus of keeping in worst hands (A's) and managing the size of the pot well.

    Given depth of stacks I think I opt to get it in, on trength of draw rather than overs, I think you only have one live over here.

    Only you know when your inclination will be if a brick hits turn, will you forge on or give up.  If you forge on regardless then I think it would be best getting it in on flop bud.
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