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i was puzzled

robyoungrobyoung Member Posts: 277
edited August 2011 in The Poker Clinic
In tsp, built up a stack of 10000, got moved to a new table, one guy just shoves 40bb deep into me and i have jj, no notes on player. what shold i have done?
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2011
    How many bb deep are you. Call anyway
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  • robyoungrobyoung Member Posts: 277
    edited August 2011
    same as guy who shoved, i did call and was very suprised what he had lol
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  • robyoungrobyoung Member Posts: 277
    edited August 2011
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    TII Small blind  125.00 125.00 12121.00
    robyoung Big blind  250.00 375.00 9900.00
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • J
    		     
    POKER80Y Fold     
    Poker__Boy Fold     
    niteall Call  250.00 625.00 24183.75
    TII All-in  12121.00 12746.00 0.00
    robyoung All-in  9900.00 22646.00 0.00
    niteall Fold     
    TII Unmatched bet  2096.00 20550.00 2096.00
    TII Show
    • K
    • K
    		   
    robyoung Show
    • J
    • J
    		   
    Flop
       
    • 7
    • A
    • 6
    		     
    Turn
       
    • Q
    		     
    River
       
    • 5
    		     
    TII Win Pair of Kings 20550.00  22646.00
    wish i would of folded now, but i honestly never had him on them lol
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  • LLCooLDLLCooLD Member Posts: 78
    edited August 2011
    I fold here. You've committed £0 in the hand. 

    There is a lot more reasons to fold than call in my eyes. 

    SOOOO often villian has big pair there, there was a big thread on 2+2 about overshoving big pairs as the amount of times you get a call with 99+ is scary. My mate grinds NL200 and makes this move quite often.

    You will find better spots to get your money in with JJ than calling a 40BB open shove. 
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited August 2011
    if your friend grinds nl200 and is open shoving monsters 100bb deep then he is special in the head.
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  • NColleyNColley Member Posts: 1,178
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: i was puzzled:
    if your friend grinds nl200 and is open shoving monsters 100bb deep then he is special in the head.
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    this
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited August 2011
    After a limp then shove I snap this off. Just make a note for next time.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited August 2011
    lol there are some merits to do this overshoving but honestly it's a massive gamble that someone has a hand that will call - and playing cash you gotta be loosing a lot of value over time

    So yeah LOL_RAISE is gotta be right he must be special in the head

    I think in MTT's it's not a bad strategy as anyone with a pocker pr will put you on AK but you gotta see a raise before you - open shoving monsters seems to be the opposite of what you should be doing ie. extracting max value
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  • LLCooLDLLCooLD Member Posts: 78
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: i was puzzled:
    if your friend grinds nl200 and is open shoving monsters 100bb deep then he is special in the head.
    Posted by LOL_RAISE

    HONESTLY, the number of loose calls you get from idiots, and especially drunken idiots on a Fri/Sat night is ridiculous. Ive seen it with my own eyes lol (on iPoker network).

    Dont get me wrong....he doesnt do it every time, I should maybe have made that clearer, but its a tactic that has got paid off sooooo often. 
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  • LnarinOOLnarinOO Member Posts: 545
    edited August 2011
    LOL'd hard at this thread hahahahhahahah
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  • RyanAA85RyanAA85 Member Posts: 28
    edited August 2011
    Check out my thread Rob, SB BB JJ vs KK unreal. Slightly different as you were further in. Hindsight is wonderful but putting myself in that spot (If i was close to the money) I would fold :-S
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