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Seat allocation for SKY PLAYERS decreasing for Grand Final of the SKY POKER TOUR

MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,618
edited September 2011 in The Sky Poker Tour


I have noticed today that the on line lobby has now been decreased from 250 seats to 240 seats. No biggie you would think, but I have also read 'elsewhere' that there will be up to 350 players playing at this event.

Not sure if Tikay invited that many while in Vegas but what do the 'SKY'  community think of this?

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  • TRIP5TRIP5 Member Posts: 3,618
    edited August 2011
    I would have thought the 'missing' 10 seats are for forum comp winners etc... Of which, I'm hoping that Scouse & DT will be awarded one each in recognition of thier DTD work innit..A girl can always dream ;o))

    Some of the extra 100 seats are being allocated via DTD as part of their increase in capacity to Sky players over the event., I'm hoping the last few will be available for the Friday night last chance qualification at DTD as in previous years...It's probably the only chance I have to qualify TBF!!!

    xx
  • MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,618
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Seat allocation for SKY PLAYERS decreasing for Grand Final of the SKY POKER TOUR:
    I would have thought the 'missing' 10 seats are for forum comp winners etc... Of which, I'm hoping that Scouse & DT will be awarded one each in recognition of thier DTD work innit..A girl can always dream ;o)) Some of the extra 100 seats are being allocated via DTD as part of their increase in capacity to Sky players over the event., I'm hoping the last few will be available for the Friday night last chance qualification at DTD as in previous years...It's probably the only chance I have to qualify TBF!!! xx
    Posted by TRIP5
    This is my main point Irene. Is it for 'SKY' players or is there a large volume of seats being allocated to players outside SKY. I understand the need for venue seats for reg's but I can not understand the decrease in numbers for SKY players.

  • SPTSPT Member Posts: 5,648
    edited August 2011
    The reduction from 250 to 240 is simple. It is for guests (a high profile player or two, a celebrity or two) who do not have Sky Poker accounts, currently. So its to keep 10 seats back for them rather than sell/qualify 250 and then not be able to sit people we have invited, at the event

    As for 250 to 350 it was decided to increase the size of the event by allocating 100 seats to the venue. Whilst some of these will be sold over the counter at DTD, many will be played for in Live satellites. A big one, for example, is planned for Fri 9th Sept at the club

    Not only will these seats allow DTD regulars to play (and after all there is a balance to be struck here between the Sky community players and attracting new players to Sky, such as the DTD regs) but it will also mean that any Sky Community player who wants to travel having not qualified will, most likely, be able to buy in or qualify in during the 48 hours before the event on arrival at DTD.

    Overall then anybody from Sky playing will be competing for a slab of a £70,000 prize pool not a £50,000 prize pool.

    All this is in keeping with plans, grand exciting plans, for the next Sky Poker Tour. Which is planned to be announced on Fri 9th September. Apologies for the tease, but it's a good 'un!


  • MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,618
    edited August 2011


    Thank you for your response to this thread Mr SPT. Like I have stated, I do understand the need for allocation of seats to allow DTD regs to take part in this event. I, however, would of hoped that the ten seats would of been taken off the venue's allocation and not Sky's.

    It is also good to hear so many of the presenters will be in attendance at the final (even Richard Orford...ish).

    As for Sky players just turning up at the event and buying in, I think most will buy in direct before the date, if they can afford it.

    Please can you post up details of the live satellite on the 9th when known.
  • penguin7penguin7 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited August 2011
    I cant see the problem here. Sky must be applauded for increasing the size of the total field.

    Having played every DTD Grand Final so far, I welcome the involvement of local players, and the venue obviously cant freeze them out for a weekend. I also know that many of the locals particularly look forward to taking part.

    I also know quite a few locals who having played in these events have now joined our community and regularly play on Sky online.

    The SPT semis nightly on here are rarely attracting more than 30 runners, so the Sky seats are not going that fast by satelliting in. Personally I find it difficult having to finish top 2 from 20, or top 3 of 30, when top 5 of 50 is much easier. (Think I have bubbled twice in 3 attempts !)

    The other problem is the 9.30 start of the semis. By then I am hopefully still involved in other tournies and so dont enter.

    I did disagree with Priority Club members being able to buy in direct, while us tournament specialists cannot. Despite playing and multitabling most days, I struggle to get halfway to the points target for membership. But that has now been sorted. So I can keep an eye on the Sky seats left while still trying to qualify.

    The news that there will be 100 seats at the venue is good, and may well be my way in. I suspect that this may apply to quite a few of us, so we will not be overrun by locals, and the event will keep its unique Sky flavour.

    The allocation of a seat to Orford may well turn out to be a waste though !
  • JAEGERBOMBJAEGERBOMB Member Posts: 1,516
    edited August 2011
    oh Mr SPT, can i ask a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge favour please....????

    Can you delay the big announcement from September 9th as some of us will be travelling ALL day and unable to access forum until home LATE monday please.

    I do believe your still owe me a favour (runs away innocently )
  • SPTSPT Member Posts: 5,648
    edited August 2011
    Ahhh Mr Jaegerbomb. Of corridor and alcohol fame

    I believe that details of next year's SPT will be announced on the TV show on Thurs 8th and forum Fri 9th

    If you miss both I will give you a print out of it all on the Saturday if you wish
  • mr_mbromr_mbro Member Posts: 1,152
    edited August 2011
    Hi All,
    My views are known on these matters, I have never been in favour of pre tourny buy-ins, apart from the final.
    I am not in favour of a third of the field, potentally, being non sky players is a large percentage, but Sky have taken this decision on commercial grounds, as it could bring in more footfall to the site, and the promotional benefits, ie press etc.
    I have taken the decision to buy-in directly, to avoid dissapointment.
    I am not against these moves, in principle, as the grand final last year didn't have the feel of a normal SPT leg, with no sit n gos that were self dealt, but that was DTD's decision not Skys. Hopefully this year will be different and I look forward to seeing everyone again.

    Colin
  • DAIBOOTDAIBOOT Member Posts: 522
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Seat allocation for SKY PLAYERS decreasing for Grand Final of the SKY POKER TOUR:
    Hi All, My views are known on these matters, I have never been in favour of pre tourny buy-ins, apart from the final. I am not in favour of a third of the field, potentally, being non sky players is a large percentage, but Sky have taken this decision on commercial grounds, as it could bring in more footfall to the site, and the promotional benefits, ie press etc. I have taken the decision to buy-in directly, to avoid dissapointment. I am not against these moves, in principle, as the grand final last year didn't have the feel of a normal SPT leg, with no sit n gos that were self dealt, but that was DTD's decision not Skys. Hopefully this year will be different and I look forward to seeing everyone again. Colin
    Posted by mr_mbro

    well said colin sky goes on about its all about the players but it is all about the NEW players in my eyes

    DAI

  • JAEGERBOMBJAEGERBOMB Member Posts: 1,516
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Seat allocation for SKY PLAYERS decreasing for Grand Final of the SKY POKER TOUR:
    Ahhh Mr Jaegerbomb. Of corridor and alcohol fame I believe that details of next year's SPT will be announced on the TV show on Thurs 8th and forum Fri 9th If you miss both I will give you a print out of it all on the Saturday if you wish
    Posted by SPT
    That would be great thanks Mr SPT and thanks again/apologies for the leeds thing................i blame Orford personally
  • Yorkie74Yorkie74 Member Posts: 347
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Seat allocation for SKY PLAYERS decreasing for Grand Final of the SKY POKER TOUR:
    with no sit n gos. Hopefully this year will be different and I look forward to seeing everyone again. Colin
    Posted by mr_mbro
    I really hope we can get more sit n gos going than we did last year.

    Any chance of asking in advance Mr SPT???  I kow thats the one thing people felt let down with last year.

    Thank you
  • Kiwini4uKiwini4u Member Posts: 3,830
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Seat allocation for SKY PLAYERS decreasing for Grand Final of the SKY POKER TOUR:
    In Response to Re: Seat allocation for SKY PLAYERS decreasing for Grand Final of the SKY POKER TOUR : I really hope we can get more sit n gos going than we did last year. Any chance of asking in advance Mr SPT???  I kow thats the one thing people felt let down with last year. Thank you
    Posted by Yorkie74
    On a similar topic, as there is going to be a satellite at DTD into the main event on Friday 9th, do we know if there will also be a game for those of us who are already in the final.
  • ZZCopZZCop Member Posts: 25
    edited August 2011

    I agree with the posts above. I understand why Sky have done this but it tarnishes the event for me. 

    To think that a good proportion of the opponents on my table, or at the event, do not have and will not any affinity for Sky Poker or its community reduces the enjoyment of the event for me.

    If Sky think that increasing the percentage of non-sky players is the way forward then I for one will have less interest in future Sky Poker Tour events, it will become just another poker tournament.
  • SPTSPT Member Posts: 5,648
    edited August 2011
    I have asked DTD to change their policy on SNGs for the weekend, including self deal. Will advise when I know

    Friday night, in addition to the satellite, will be the regular £50 game, and most likely a Saturday evening £30 tournament too
  • Yorkie74Yorkie74 Member Posts: 347
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Seat allocation for SKY PLAYERS decreasing for Grand Final of the SKY POKER TOUR:
    I have asked DTD to change their policy on SNGs for the weekend, including self deal. Will advise when I know Friday night, in addition to the satellite, will be the regular £50 game, and most likely a Saturday evening £30 tournament too
    Posted by SPT
    Great stuff.  Lets hope they allow us :o)
  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Seat allocation for SKY PLAYERS decreasing for Grand Final of the SKY POKER TOUR:
    I agree with the posts above. I understand why Sky have done this but it tarnishes the event for me.  To think that a good proportion of the opponents on my table, or at the event, do not have and will not any affinity for Sky Poker or its community reduces the enjoyment of the event for me. If Sky think that increasing the percentage of non-sky players is the way forward then I for one will have less interest in future Sky Poker Tour events, it will become just another poker tournament.
    Posted by ZZCop
    I imagine that after attending an SPT and getting to know some of the players from the site, a lot of the 'non' Sky players will be opening accounts and using the site.

    Also a lot of the people who qualify via the live sats will be Sky players anyway who have missed out on the chance to qualify online.


  • SoLackSoLack Member Posts: 2,737
    edited August 2011
    With the added size of the SPT (good imo), there will likely be less dealers available for Sngs, and so unless they do allow self deal there is unlikely to be more side action than last year.  I intend to stay in the SPT, thus avoiding the need for a SnG, but given experience of last year wd more likely sit at a cash table if i do go out.
  • SolarCarroSolarCarro Member Posts: 2,273
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Seat allocation for SKY PLAYERS decreasing for Grand Final of the SKY POKER TOUR:
    I agree with the posts above. I understand why Sky have done this but it tarnishes the event for me.  To think that a good proportion of the opponents on my table, or at the event, do not have and will not any affinity for Sky Poker or its community reduces the enjoyment of the event for me. If Sky think that increasing the percentage of non-sky players is the way forward then I for one will have less interest in future Sky Poker Tour events, it will become just another poker tournament.
    Posted by ZZCop
    I think these points are perfectly valid but the DTD grand final is different to the other 5 SPT events in a season. DTD is the premier card room in Europe and has the capacity to hold a larger tournament than anywhere else, with the increased buy in and obvious value that a 300+ runner tournament has then I have no issues with the 100 or so seats available for DTD regulars, Sky have made great strides in the live poker tour arena over the last 3 years and obviously want a wider audience for their premier event of the calendar, it also swells the prize pool and gives us mere mortals a chance at a £15k payday!! Last year the grand final was won by a guy playing his first ever live tournament! Dream come true time!

    The other 5 SPT events will always have a proper community feel because the cardrooms used only hold 150-200 seats and therefore the majority of the players are Sky regs and community regs, I am sure these £110 buy in events will continue to be the friendliest tour events on the circuit and be supported by Sky regs who are the best community in poker! (Other communities exist and are friendly)

    Sky Poker Tour events are very popular because they are well run, fun weekends and never taken too seriously until the later stages, but one thing the SPT has done in the last 3 years is grow and growth needs developed as it is important in any business model!

    Dave
  • laucallaucal Member Posts: 10
    edited August 2011

    Great job Mr SPT.

    I'm fairly new to the Sky Poker community but I'm an avid watcher of channel 865 (including repeats, sad or what!) and have been known to dabble in a game or two.

    I agree with penguin7 on the SPT semis. I tried to qualify for the SPT Grand Final once, however due to the low numbers there was only one seat up for grabs. You could argue that it should be easier to qualify with fewer runners but it doesn't play like that. I'm tinkering with the idea of buying in direct to the Grand Final, which would be my first live event. Also my girlfriend would love to meet Tikay!!

    Sky's "adjustments" are not a new concept. Any organisation seeks continuous improvement. Without it the organisation would wither and die. Obviously there are pros and cons to everything, however on the whole Sky do a great job. If here's one thing I have learned from my own job it's that change is constant. Hang on to you hats!    

     

  • howleygan1howleygan1 Member Posts: 31
    edited August 2011

    Although i dont fully disagree with your issues with the seat allocation i am looking at this from another angle, which is that the recent gukpt had 212 runners and how many were sky players? (seeing as i cannot find the thread anymore ill guess at 10). That is a little over 2% of the field being a regular on this site. The spt final on the other hand will have just under 70% sky players registered(if my maths is correct, gcse grade C dont you know!)

    Maybe it is because this will be my first event and i havent seen the community spirit first hand but still i am really looking forward to this it.

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