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Some NL4 hands from small session - Going back to basics advice.

The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
edited August 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Starting to get my NL4 grind back on. And needed to pop out in half an hour so decided a small session to get back into gear would be ok. Some hands from that session.

1.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
JACKARMY74 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £3.93
The_Don90 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £3.90
  Your hole cards
  • 7
  • J
     
skiboi Fold     
BUMDEAL394 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £1.45
ginags30 Fold     
Brandnew Fold     
JACKARMY74 Call  £0.02 £0.12 £3.91
The_Don90 Check     
Flop
   
  • J
  • 8
  • A
     
JACKARMY74 Check     
The_Don90 Check     
BUMDEAL394 Check     
Turn
   
  • 8
     
JACKARMY74 Check     
The_Don90 Check     
BUMDEAL394 Check     
River
   
  • 9
     
JACKARMY74 Check     
The_Don90 Check     
BUMDEAL394 Bet  £0.16 £0.28 £1.29
JACKARMY74 Fold     
The_Don90 ?????

2. One of my common replies on this is about AQ so another AQ hand
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
JACKARMY74 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £3.40
The_Don90 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £4.38
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • A
     
les1948 Fold     
ginags30 Raise  £0.08 £0.14 £9.25
Brandnew Call  £0.08 £0.22 £1.39
JACKARMY74 Fold     
The_Don90 Raise  £0.36 £0.58 £4.02
ginags30 Call  £0.32 £0.90 £8.93
Brandnew Fold     
Flop
   
  • 6
  • 4
  • K
     
The_Don90 Bet  £0.68 £1.58 £3.34
ginags30 Fold     
The_Don90 Muck     
The_Don90 Win  £0.83  £4.17
The_Don90 Return  £0.68 £0.07 £4.85
3. I hate these donk bets, so my question here is about my sizing in general.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
skyephil Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £2.94
1hunter Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £2.95
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
     
The_Don90 Raise  £0.32 £0.38 £3.68
smgmcbride Fold     
bullseye50 Fold     
Epoker Call  £0.32 £0.70 £1.58
skyephil Call  £0.30 £1.00 £2.64
1hunter Call  £0.28 £1.28 £2.67
Flop
   
  • 8
  • 7
  • K
     
skyephil Bet  £0.04 £1.32 £2.60
1hunter Call  £0.04 £1.36 £2.63
The_Don90 Raise  £1.09 £2.45 £2.59
Epoker Fold     
skyephil Call  £1.05 £3.50 £1.55
1hunter Fold     
Turn
   
  • 6
     
skyephil Bet  £0.04 £3.54 £1.51
The_Don90 All-in  £2.59 £6.13 £0.00
skyephil All-in  £1.51 £7.64 £0.00
The_Don90 Unmatched bet  £1.04 £6.60 £1.04
skyephil Show
  • 8
  • 7
   
The_Don90 Show
  • K
  • K
   
River
   
  • 2
     
The_Don90 Win Three Kings £6.10  £7.14


4. Another AQ hand
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
ginags30 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £8.99
JACKARMY74 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £2.84
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • A
     
The_Don90 Raise  £0.20 £0.26 £4.63
les1948 Fold     
ginags30 Fold     
JACKARMY74 Call  £0.16 £0.42 £2.68
Flop
   
  • J
  • 4
  • J
     
JACKARMY74 Check     
The_Don90 Check     
Turn
   
  • 9
     
JACKARMY74 Check     
The_Don90 Check     
River
   
  • 3
     
JACKARMY74 Bet  £0.32 £0.74 £2.36
The_Don90 Call  £0.32 £1.06 £4.31
JACKARMY74 Show
  • 10
  • A
   
The_Don90 Show
  • Q
  • A
   
The_Don90 Win Pair of Jacks £0.98  £5.29

5. Dont think i should be c-betting here Ever? opinions
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
smgmcbride Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £2.37
Yell4Yella Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £1.87
  Your hole cards
  • 7
  • 7
     
GWAY Call  £0.04 £0.10 £7.67
DanDesousa Fold     
The_Don90 Raise  £0.20 £0.30 £3.74
smgmcbride Fold     
Yell4Yella Fold     
GWAY Call  £0.16 £0.46 £7.51
Flop
   
  • 9
  • 8
  • Q
     
GWAY Check     
The_Don90 Bet  £0.23 £0.69 £3.51
GWAY Call  £0.23 £0.92 £7.28
Turn
   
  • 3
     
GWAY Check     
The_Don90 Check     
River
   
  • Q
     
GWAY Check     
The_Don90 Check     
GWAY Show
  • J
  • 9
   
The_Don90 Muck
  • 7
  • 7
   
GWAY Win Two Pairs, Queens and 9s £0.85  £8.13



6. Standard or room to fold?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
smgmcbride Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £2.40
GWAY Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £8.15
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • K
     
DanDesousa Fold     
1hunter Call  £0.04 £0.10 £1.92
The_Don90 Raise  £0.32 £0.42 £3.68
smgmcbride All-in  £2.40 £2.82 £0.00
GWAY Fold     
1hunter Fold     
The_Don90 All-in  £3.68 £6.50 £0.00
The_Don90 Unmatched bet  £1.58 £4.92 £1.58
smgmcbride Show
  • K
  • K
   
The_Don90 Show
  • A
  • K
   
Flop
   
  • 4
  • J
  • 9
     
Turn
   
  • 10
     
River
   
  • J
     
smgmcbride Win Two Pairs, Kings and Jacks £4.55  £4.55


7. Overall hand performance here. Raise pre? Should i cbet with 2 overs + GS?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
The_Don90 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £4.14
les1948 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £1.61
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • A
     
BUMDEAL394 Fold     
ginags30 Fold     
Brandnew Call  £0.04 £0.10 £1.54
JACKARMY74 Call  £0.04 £0.14 £3.85
The_Don90 Raise  £0.18 £0.32 £3.96
les1948 Call  £0.16 £0.48 £1.45
Brandnew Call  £0.16 £0.64 £1.38
JACKARMY74 Call  £0.16 £0.80 £3.69
Flop
   
  • 9
  • 8
  • 7
     
The_Don90 Check     
les1948 Check     
Brandnew Check     
JACKARMY74 Check     
Turn
   
  • 9
     
The_Don90 Check     
les1948 Bet  £0.40 £1.20 £1.05
Brandnew Fold     
JACKARMY74 Call  £0.40 £1.60 £3.29
The_Don90 Fold     
River
   
  • 6
     
les1948 All-in  £1.05 £2.65 £0.00
JACKARMY74 Fold     
les1948 Muck     
les1948 Win  £1.48  £1.48
les1948 Return  £1.05 £0.12 £2.53
Lot of hands sorry. Just basic questions.

Comments

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited August 2011
    1. Probably call fold is ok though.

    2. AQ OOP I might be more inclined to just flat pre, 3bet size tho is good. I'd personlly cbet smaller against just one villain.

    3. Perfect imo.

    4. Defo bet that dry flop IP, as played fold river imo.

    5. Defo IP against one villain cbet is usually 100% for me, good post flop shutting down.

    6. Perfect again, not even a ful BI to call and he can have a LOT worse.

    7. Raise more pre imo - 24p. Flop good no way you're bluffing past 3 players lol Turn good fold.
  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited August 2011
    how much do you have in your br for this latest effort then?

    most of the hands look ok, I wouldn't cbet hand 5 though
  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Some NL4 hands from small session - Going back to basics advice.:
    how much do you have in your br for this latest effort then? most of the hands look ok, I wouldn't cbet hand 5 though
    Posted by yb
    pretty much exactly what i thought as i read thru
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Some NL4 hands from small session - Going back to basics advice.:
    how much do you have in your br for this latest effort then? most of the hands look ok, I wouldn't cbet hand 5 though
    Posted by yb
    8BI starting. Up to 8.5BIs. Was going to start with 10BI but done the DTD and another tourny during the day yesterday and no cashes.

    Hand 5 im in full agreement with. Didnt think i needed to post it but thought id add it into the thread.
  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited August 2011
    first time i ever seen a post from u and u actually look like ur improving....finally ! :P

    1. bet turn
    4. always c-bet that flop
    5. never cbetting

    rest i prob play the same 
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited August 2011
    Not a bad selection of starting hands, two AQs, a KK, AK, AJ and 77 in the space of 30 mins.

    I'm surprised you're only up 1/2 a BI from a 30 minute session with these hands. I'd assume there wouldn't have been too many other hands you played, not at 4NL??
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Some NL4 hands from small session - Going back to basics advice.:
    In Response to Re: Some NL4 hands from small session - Going back to basics advice. : 8BI starting. Up to 8.5BIs. Was going to start with 10BI but done the DTD and another tourny during the day yesterday and no cashes. Hand 5 im in full agreement with. Didnt think i needed to post it but thought id add it into the thread.
    Posted by The_Don90
    The DTD is a good bunch of MTT's to play with a small BR but I would advise you just stick solely to cash for a little while before you start taking bits out to play MTT's.
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2011
    1- Fold river
    2 - I dont always 3bet, I also prob cbet less, but its fine
    3 - nice hand and nice coolering
    4 - depends on villain whether I cbet or not, if I did would intend to barrell the turn a lot. River is a call
    5 - c/f as standard, think you can cbet it sometimes though
    6 - nh
    7- raise bigger pre, postflop is fine
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Some NL4 hands from small session - Going back to basics advice.:
    Not a bad selection of starting hands, two AQs, a KK, AK, AJ and 77 in the space of 30 mins. I'm surprised you're only up 1/2 a BI from a 30 minute session with these hands. I'd assume there wouldn't have been too many other hands you played, not at 4NL??
    Posted by Lambert180
    AK v KK was worth just over half a buy in so that hurt my profit abit but really the above hands and a few more which where about as standrad as raise pre and all fold lol
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