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QQ 3bet pre

Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
edited August 2011 in The Poker Clinic
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kampfer-as Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £9.13
super_fly Big blind   £0.10 £0.15 £9.87
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
     
Dudeskin8 Raise   £0.40 £0.55 £19.22
billyboy25 Fold        
x Raise   £1.00 £1.55 £9.02
jmb60 Fold        
kampfer-as Fold        
super_fly Fold        
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2011
    4b/c
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: QQ 3bet pre:
    4b/c
    Posted by grantorino
    4b/c - is this 4 bet call a shove ?
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  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited August 2011
    What size you make it grantorino? $4.50ish?

    If your willing to 4-bet then call, why not shove and have done with it?
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: QQ 3bet pre:
    What size you make it grantorino? $4.50ish? If your willing to 4-bet then call, why not shove and have done with it?
    Posted by DrSharp
    because I might want to 4b/f as a bluff sometimes, and i dont want villain to know if I am bluffing or valuebetting

    I make it 2.40 here and call it off, but you could make it a bit less

    Rancid, yes 4b/c is 4bet and call a shove 
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  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: QQ 3bet pre:
    In Response to Re: QQ 3bet pre : because I might want to 4b/f as a bluff sometimes, and i dont want villain to know if I am bluffing or valuebetting I make it 2.40 here and call it off, but you could make it a bit less Rancid, yes 4b/c is 4bet and call a shove 
    Posted by grantorino
    Yep, got it. Thankyou. 

    I've got 4NLitis, i just shove but 4-bet is better.


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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: QQ 3bet pre:
    In Response to Re: QQ 3bet pre : Yep, got it. Thankyou.  I've got 4NLitis, i just shove but 4-bet is better.
    Posted by DrSharp
    well if you never 4bet bluff shoving is prob fine. I doubt 4bet bluffing is a large part of as winning strategy at
    4NL
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: QQ 3bet pre:
    In Response to Re: QQ 3bet pre : because I might want to 4b/f as a bluff sometimes, and i dont want villain to know if I am bluffing or valuebetting I make it 2.40 here and call it off, but you could make it a bit less Rancid, yes 4b/c is 4bet and call a shove 
    Posted by grantorino
    +1
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  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: QQ 3bet pre:
    In Response to Re: QQ 3bet pre : well if you never 4bet bluff shoving is prob fine. I doubt 4bet bluffing is a large part of as winning strategy at 4NL
    Posted by grantorino

    You dont bluff at NL4. lol. They call everything, hence the shove. 

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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: QQ 3bet pre:
    In Response to Re: QQ 3bet pre : because I might want to 4b/f as a bluff sometimes, and i dont want villain to know if I am bluffing or valuebetting I make it 2.40 here and call it off, but you could make it a bit less Rancid, yes 4b/c is 4bet and call a shove 
    Posted by grantorino
    ok so your either 4b/f - balancing your range
    4b/c - calling a shove

    what if he 5 bet raises but does not shove - i guess you shove anyway )
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: QQ 3bet pre:
    In Response to Re: QQ 3bet pre : ok so your either 4b/f - balancing your range 4b/c - calling a shove what if he 5 bet raises but does not shove - i guess you shove anyway )
    Posted by rancid
    in this situation hero is never 4b/f .. obv to strong a hand to turn into a bluff
    balancing your range is ok with weak/marginal hands against taggy regs, i doubt there's many of them at 10NL though
    if you're 4bet bluffing 100BB deep you're always folding to a 5b, fwiw you probz shouldn't be 4bet bluffing for more than 25BB of your stack (if you are only 100BB deep) 

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