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DYM RAKE

bludreid11bludreid11 Member Posts: 490
edited August 2011 in Poker Chat

 As a person who can only look in awe at people who can lose £300 and reload  another £300 straight away.
 with a limited bankroll allocated each month i play dym's
 To try and build a bankroll at these tables is nigh impossible.

for instance

  if you take part in 3 dym's at any level win 2 lose one which i think is about average so at £5.50 level


 £5.50x3 invested out lay  £16.50
             return                 £20
             roi                      £3.50
as it takes about an hour on average to play these games you may be able to play 6.in a day.
please sky reduce the rake on dyms to  5%

 

Comments

  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited August 2011
    not going to happen, can stop playing them hu turbos only have 25p rake so give them a shot also you can play 6-10 an hour just single tabling
  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited August 2011
    how much do u expect to earn playin 1 £5 sit n go at a time?
  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited August 2011

    There's been many threads about this before bluereid11, a new one pops up about once a month. Sky are highly unlikely to reduce the rake in these because they're very popular and fill so quickly at the current level.

  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited August 2011
    Yeah this is something that annoyed me ages ago when I was trying to grind up my BR through DYMs. You really have to be a consistent winner of DYMs to make money because obviously the rake means you're not actually doubling your money, so really you need to be winning more than 2 out of every 3.

    Multi-tabling DYMs is the only way of speeding up the process but still small wins really. But as with anything, if you don't like it, don't play them.

    I sometimes have a go of the 10 man (35p) bounty hunter SnG if I just want some cheap fun and you can get around £2 for a win with a few heads there, decent return.
  • 67Bhoys67Bhoys Member Posts: 2,553
    edited August 2011
    As Gary said, there have been posts about this before, and they usually get kicked into the long grass that is community suggestions, where they wither and die.

    It is obvious to all who play them that the rake is too high and should be reduced, but Sky don't seem to value the players opinions on this.

    As you say, you have to find a level where you are consistently winning 2/3 for a small return, and play multitable to make a decent profit.

    Best of luck at the DYM tables once Sky have reduced the rake(I live in hope).
  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM RAKE:
    As Gary said, there have been posts about this before, and they usually get kicked into the long grass that is community suggestions, where they wither and die. It is obvious to all who play them that the rake is too high and should be reduced, but Sky don't seem to value the players opinions on this. As you say, you have to find a level where you are consistently winning 2/3 for a small return, and play multitable to make a decent profit. Best of luck at the DYM tables once Sky have reduced the rake(I live in hope).
    Posted by 67Bhoys
    +1
  • purehunipurehuni Member Posts: 5
    edited August 2011
    to break even at 10% rake u need to cash in 55% of DYMs. so if u catch in 6/10, u get a 15% ROI.
  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM RAKE:
    to break even at 10% rake u need to cash in 55% of DYMs. so if u catch in 6/10, u get a 15% ROI.
    Posted by purehuni
    You need to cash in 6 out of 11, to break even, so yes 55%.

    But 6/10 wins gives an ROI of 8% (not 15%)

    eg

    10 x £5.50 = £55.00 invested

    6 wins x £10 = £60.00 return

    Profit  £60.00 - £55.00 = £5.00

    £5.00 / £55.00 = 8.33%

    If the rake were halved to 5% the profit for 6/10 wins would increse to £7.50 on £52.50 invested, that's an ROI of 14.28%
  • 67Bhoys67Bhoys Member Posts: 2,553
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM RAKE:
    In Response to Re: DYM RAKE : You need to cash in 6 out of 11, to break even, so yes 55%. But 6/10 wins gives an ROI of 8% (not 15%) eg 10 x £5.50 = £55.00 invested 6 wins x £10 = £60.00 return Profit  £60.00 - £55.00 = £5.00 £5.00 / £55.00 = 8.33% If the rake were halved to 5% the profit for 6/10 wins would increse to £7.50 on £52.50 invested, that's an ROI of 14.28%
    Posted by GaryQQQ
    Winning 6/9, returns £10.50 for an investment of £49.50

    A return of 21.2%, if you can achieve the ratio of wins. 

    Pretty hard though given the variance.

  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM RAKE:
    In Response to Re: DYM RAKE : Winning 6/9, returns £10.50 for an investment of £49.50 A return of 21.2%, if you can achieve the ratio of wins.  Pretty hard though given the variance.
    Posted by 67Bhoys
    I dont think that is a hard rate to get this win rate IMO, they are very soft so makes up for rake. always a good way to get your bankroll up and/or win money for freerolling tourneys :)
  • 67Bhoys67Bhoys Member Posts: 2,553
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM RAKE:
    In Response to Re: DYM RAKE : I dont think that is a hard rate to get this win rate IMO, they are very soft so makes up for rake. always a good way to get your bankroll up and/or win money for freerolling tourneys :)
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    Yep I use them to generate the entry fees for any satallites that I enter.  Basically a sat into a sat.

    But if the OP is  wanting to make money using DYMs only, the problem is the time it takes to win a substantial amount, unless you can achieve  the 2/3 ratio at a significant level.
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited August 2011
    Yeah thats a valid point i often play 4 @ 5.50 and generally aim to win 3/4 which is ok winning rate
  • splashiessplashies Member Posts: 3,680
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM RAKE:
    Yeah thats a valid point i often play 4 @ 5.50 and generally aim to win 3/4 which is ok winning rate
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    Ok? This is phenominal! 75% win rate!!!!!!!!!! 36% ROI!!!!

    Teach me please!
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited August 2011


    It's over a sample of like 8 games a fortnight........


  • 67Bhoys67Bhoys Member Posts: 2,553
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM RAKE:
    In Response to Re: DYM RAKE : Ok? This is phenominal! 75% win rate!!!!!!!!!! Teach me please!
    Posted by splashies
    The Young Gun poker school.

    Moobs Towers Perhaps?
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM RAKE:
    It's over a sample of like 8 games a fortnight........
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    lol probably this but when i do play properly eg have a couple days solid when was of work was getting 60-70% they are very soft
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