Hmmm! Bet or check.

DrSharp

What do you do here? Fairly readless, he'd been involved a bit but not too much so thought he was reasonably solid. As the hand was playing i thought he must have been drawing to somesort of hand. The river is a horrendous card for me.

Stack size is awkard to the end, bet, check  and what size? If i set him in i cant see something like 9x calling or even 2 pair. Am i only getting called by a hand that beats me? If i bet and he shoves i have to call right? If i check, only a weaker hand will check behind. urghhh! Help please.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
DrSharp	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£8.03
x	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£6.62
	Your hole cards	7 7
bolly580	Fold
Rusty4	Fold
OBECALP	Fold
fafnir	Fold
DrSharp	Raise		£0.22	£0.34	£7.81
x	Call		£0.18	£0.52	£6.44
Flop
		6 9 7
DrSharp	Bet		£0.52	£1.04	£7.29
x	Call		£0.52	£1.56	£5.92
Turn
		2
DrSharp	Bet		£1.56	£3.12	£5.73
x	Call		£1.56	£4.68	£4.36
River
		8
DrSharp

Lambert180

Raise much bigger pre, something like 40p, good bet on the flop, good again on the turn. I see you're problem on the river, I don't think you should bet out, I'd c/c, I doubt he would shove for value with the straight.

DrSharp

If i raise 40p, i miss the flop approx 6 out of 7 times and with me to act first it makes my c-bet uncomfortably big. This way allows me to pot bet him all-in on the river if i hit and also make my c-bets cheaper. Am i wrong in thinking this way?

I prefer check call on the end myself as it allows him to bluff the river. He would shove the straight as his stack is less than the pot. I'm defo calling any river bet right?

Unknown

In Response to Re: Hmmm! Bet or check.:

Raise much bigger pre, something like 40p, good bet on the flop, good again on the turn. I see you're problem on the river, I don't think you should bet out, I'd c/c, I doubt he would shove for value with the straight.
Posted by Lambert180

Why raise 5x? So that when you get called, your oop in a much bigger pot with a very marginal value hand? 3x is fine. 

Bet flop bet turn sure, but I disagree with c/c, villain wont be betting anything apart from a straight on the river (or bluffs). Bet small, fold to reraise is a much better line at this level.

edit. Ive just noticed missed diamonds. I still don't like c/c but I guess its villain dependant if they bluff missed flush draws

percival09

i probz c/f

raise pre is fine

i probz wouldnt bet full pot on both flop & turn

DrSharp

In Response to Re: Hmmm! Bet or check.:

In Response to Re: Hmmm! Bet or check. : Why raise 5x? So that when you get called, your oop in a much bigger pot with a very marginal value hand? 3x is fine.  Bet flop bet turn sure, but I disagree with c/c, villain wont be betting anything apart from a straight on the river (or bluffs). Bet small, fold to reraise is a much better line at this level. edit. Ive just noticed missed diamonds. I still don't like c/c but I guess its villain dependant if they bluff missed flush draws
Posted by CoxyLboro

What does he call me with on the river? I think he folds any other hands that i beat even for 2 quid. Not arguing with anyone, just an interesting spot and was unsure what to do.

DrSharp

In Response to Re: Hmmm! Bet or check.:

i probz c/f raise pre is fine i probz wouldnt bet full pot on both flop & turn
Posted by percival09

Thanks for the input. Yeah, was a bit aggressive but i bet pot to take the odds off the flush draw on the flop and once he insta called that i thought i could get away with another which i did and that meant he was set in on the river until....

At this level, pot size bets usually get called.

Unknown

In Response to Re: Hmmm! Bet or check.:

In Response to Re: Hmmm! Bet or check. : What does he call me with on the river? I think he folds any other hands that i beat even for 2 quid. Not arguing with anyone, just an interesting spot and was unsure what to do.
Posted by DrSharp

Don't question what people will call with at these levels, some people find calls with the most ridiculous hands. Once you get to above, say, NL20, then you have to start considering whether they can call with worse, and thus is it a value bet or a bluff catcher. You'd kick yourself if they had slowplayed aces which you know they are never folding on any river.

DrSharp

In Response to Re: Hmmm! Bet or check.:

In Response to Re: Hmmm! Bet or check. : Don't question what people will call with at these levels, some people find calls with the most ridiculous hands. Once you get to above, say, NL20, then you have to start considering whether they can call with worse, and thus is it a value bet or a bluff catcher. You'd kick yourself if they had slowplayed aces which you know they are never folding on any river.
Posted by CoxyLboro

 Cheers, much appreciated Coxy.

NColley

Make a note of this villian to overbet vs in future.

rancid

he is either beating you on the flop with str/set and /or rivered str or you have him beat
could be missed combo draw

b/f - basically bet the amount you would pay off on that board if you had overpair/2 pr or set 6's

Dudeskin8

I'd probably put a stopper in like £1.50 then snap fold if raised.