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Good news Bad news! Its never easy!

DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
edited August 2011 in The Poker Clinic

Readless on villain. Not been involved too much so i put him as a reasonably 'solid' player for NL4.

Firstly, should i be c-betting this flop? It is a bit drawy. He's calling any J, any small straight draw with a raggy ace, and any flush draw. Does that make it a check or should i always c-bet after raising pre flop?

Secondly, what do i do now? If he was drawing it lookslike he has now hit.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
xSmall blind  £0.02 £0.02 £4.73
DrSharp Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £5.80
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • Q
     
gaffer1939 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £0.80
CHRIS14 Fold     
OhDancing1 Call  £0.04 £0.14 £3.38
xCall  £0.02 £0.16 £4.71
DrSharp Raise  £0.28 £0.44 £5.52
gaffer1939 Fold     
OhDancing1 Fold     
xCall  £0.28 £0.72 £4.43
Flop
   
  • 4
  • J
  • 3
     
xCheck     
DrSharpBet  £0.40 £1.12 £5.12
xCall  £0.40 £1.52 £4.03
Turn
   
  • Q
     
xBet  £0.76 £2.28 £3.27
DrSharp ??

Comments

  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited August 2011
    cbet bigger, i'd flat the turn and re-evaluate on the river, i'd be vbetting on most non-club rivers if he checks.
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited August 2011
    what does that cbet even mean? you and the other 4NL players always say bet big when you get a big hand, so it's obv your bluffing when you bet around half pot, keep your sizings the same
    call and fold to most bets on river - v.bet if checked to you
  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Good news Bad news! Its never easy!:
    what does that cbet even mean? you and the other 4NL players always say bet big when you get a big hand, so it's obv your bluffing when you bet around half pot, keep your sizings the same call and fold to most bets on river - v.bet if checked to you
    Posted by percival09
    A high percentage dont figure that out. Also, never played this villain before so he wont know any patterns. Saying that, it defo should be bigger. 3/4 pot at least. Looks weak.
  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited August 2011
    I decided to call and re evaluate the river. What now? Easy fold?
    Turn
       
    • Q
         
    xBet  £0.76 £2.28 £3.27
    DrSharp Call  £0.76 £3.04 £4.36
    River
       
    • J
         
    xBet  £1.52 £4.56 £1.75
    DrSharp
  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited August 2011

    Raise pre was fine
    3/4 pot would be better cbet
    flat turn
    Give up time now imo

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited August 2011
    Pre looks good

    Flop I actually cbet smaller lolz, 35p gets same answser, DO NOT cbet bigger people DO NOT think at this level, half pot means same as 3/4 pot. 

    Turn snap fold for me.
  • jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Good news Bad news! Its never easy!:
    Pre looks good Flop I actually cbet smaller lolz, 35p gets same answser, DO NOT cbet bigger people DO NOT think at this level, half pot means same as 3/4 pot.  Turn snap fold for me.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    This, if a player has missed the flop and is going to fold they will fold to 1/2 pot just as often as 3/4 and it makes it cheaper for you to see where you are
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Good news Bad news! Its never easy!:
    Pre looks good Flop I actually cbet smaller lolz, 35p gets same answser, DO NOT cbet bigger people DO NOT think at this level, half pot means same as 3/4 pot.  Turn snap fold for me.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    can't wait until these players learn how to come onto this forum .. you're in for it! lol
  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited August 2011
    i actually like the cbet size, its quite a dry board no need to bet massive imo also smaller with bluffs bigger for value works fine
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Good news Bad news! Its never easy!:
    i actually like the cbet size, its quite a dry board no need to bet massive imo also smaller with bluffs bigger for value works fine
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    but considering he'd bet big if he hit, isnt the sizing bad? if the opponents had any sense they'd know
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2011
    not going to bother commenting on sizing, call turn, fold river looks ok to me
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: Good news Bad news! Its never easy!:
    In Response to Re: Good news Bad news! Its never easy! : can't wait until these players learn how to come onto this forum .. you're in for it! lol
    Posted by percival09
    I'm figuring that that'll take them at least another 3 years lol
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