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Accused of slowroll, seemed like a tricky spot? You decide I guess
AMYBR
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Playing 50/£1. I've not long lost a huge chunk of my stack on this board:
56729 rainbow (effective) board with K8. C/c two streets, tank calling a jam on river, opponent holding 810o
Not tilted, if anything more focused as winner is a soft spot and am eager to get money back.
Anywho, get down to 3 handed while waiting for seats to fill.
I'm in BB, button limps, SB limps, I find KdQd, make it £4.5 to go. Button folds.
SB is a solid player, knows how to get value, has moves, is one of the only players I have to worry about at full table. He completes.
£10.5 to flop. I have maybe £125 behind, he has me hugely covered, £400+
Qh9h4s.
He checks flop, I lead £8.5. He thinks for awhile then jams (c/r allin), covering me. He knows my range here is pretty narrow. Figure he must have 2 hearts, 2pr, 10J or possibly set. I tank for quite awhile, mainly putting him on the draw and deciding if I want to flip against if for 120BB's. His Jam screams huge draw.
I tank and tank and tank. But call. I do the honourable thing and put my chips in, flipping my hand at same time. He is extremely unhappy, flipping Q7 and being aggro accusing me of slow roll. I win, but try to explain that was simply trying to figure where I was. I am pretty tight for my stack. After leading and getting jammed on there, I expect opponent to have at least a combo draw. Also opponent is a thinking player, who knows me well enough to suspect I'm strong. Also knowing I'm slightly steamed and likely to call. Almost as though he wants a call.
Bt nothing wrong with holding back and thinking/considoring your read ,IMO. Snap calls are bad calls.
Perhaps underleveling?
I though this spot needed consideration. How many of you think its a slowroll?
56729 rainbow (effective) board with K8. C/c two streets, tank calling a jam on river, opponent holding 810o
Not tilted, if anything more focused as winner is a soft spot and am eager to get money back.
Anywho, get down to 3 handed while waiting for seats to fill.
I'm in BB, button limps, SB limps, I find KdQd, make it £4.5 to go. Button folds.
SB is a solid player, knows how to get value, has moves, is one of the only players I have to worry about at full table. He completes.
£10.5 to flop. I have maybe £125 behind, he has me hugely covered, £400+
Qh9h4s.
He checks flop, I lead £8.5. He thinks for awhile then jams (c/r allin), covering me. He knows my range here is pretty narrow. Figure he must have 2 hearts, 2pr, 10J or possibly set. I tank for quite awhile, mainly putting him on the draw and deciding if I want to flip against if for 120BB's. His Jam screams huge draw.
I tank and tank and tank. But call. I do the honourable thing and put my chips in, flipping my hand at same time. He is extremely unhappy, flipping Q7 and being aggro accusing me of slow roll. I win, but try to explain that was simply trying to figure where I was. I am pretty tight for my stack. After leading and getting jammed on there, I expect opponent to have at least a combo draw. Also opponent is a thinking player, who knows me well enough to suspect I'm strong. Also knowing I'm slightly steamed and likely to call. Almost as though he wants a call.
Bt nothing wrong with holding back and thinking/considoring your read ,IMO. Snap calls are bad calls.
Perhaps underleveling?
I though this spot needed consideration. How many of you think its a slowroll?
Comments
[x] loose call
So if you are more inclined to class it as a loose call, there would still need to be a thought process/thinking time to find a range. So definately not a slowroll then.................?
Just was annoyed as didnt seem like a slowroll to me as the board is so wet and opponent knows I dont play for stacks often. But on the other hand: this hand, this board, 3 handed BonB i figured he may have a slight point
Nothing wrong with thinking about your plays before you make them its something i need to learn to do more often. Its not a clean cut call as you know. Maybe he was just annoyed that his bluff was called and trying to find fault with your play because he lost
good to see you back on the forum btw.
Yeah I know the math and was very concious of the blockers. But opponent ordinarily would (or should) only have a 40% type hand here.
Question then becomes do you really need to take the race for 120bigs with no significant edge?
Also I think not taking a flip (if you think it is a flip or you are slightly ahead) here would be pretty bad
lol at this guy being solid, limp call Q7 pre, then shove TPNK
Yeah I never act that fast in any spot, unless its a no brainer, which this wasnt.
Dont know if I agree with you on opting not to take a flip being bad here bud. Am never really going to be happy getting 120 bigs in with only a slight edge. I flip bad
It is slightly risk averse I agree, but there's alot of that in my game these days. You know the type of games I play, with so much soft money there's no real need to take the flips. Money is most likely coming in my direction in safer spots throughout evening.