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Facing shove on the flop

MacacanMacacan Member Posts: 129
edited August 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Not long at the table so no info. Should i be looking to fold here? I think i'm ahead, but its a draw heavy board. Dont think there any trips out there, poss AK or KJ. Should this be an easy fold or a call?

Any thoughts would be great.

Cheers

Mac


SoftenerSmall blind £0.05£0.05£8.35xxxxBig blind £0.10£0.15£19.01 Your hole cardsAA   leroy114Fold    hitche810Fold    MacacanRaise £0.50£0.65£8.51WAKEY288Call £0.50£1.15£6.12SoftenerCall £0.45£1.60£7.90xxxxCall £0.40£2.00£18.61Flop  Q8K   SoftenerCheck    xxxxCheck    MacacanBet £1.00£3.00£7.51WAKEY288Fold    SoftenerFold    xxxxAll-in £18.61£21.61£0.00

Comments

  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited August 2011
    Its a tricky spot after 4 have seen a flop.

    Was in very similar spot facing 120BB shove other day, Often I feel that these bets want to be called.  Opponent easily has 2pr, 1pr and draw, 10J, 2 spades.  So already behind, or drawing with no significant advantage.

    Alot of it depends on dynamic, how often opponent does this.  But I dont mind a fold here.  Only issue being you hold the nut spade and 2 of his outs when he holds 10J.

    I dont really like this spot so may nit fold, hoping opponent takes a similar line when I feel he has less potential equity.
  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited August 2011
    Defo nasty spot this and tbh i aint got a clue what im doin here , gotta depend on what i think the players range is most likely pre , i mean id hate to fold and be shown AK lolz
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2011
    First of all the fact its a draw heavy board is more reason to call

    Cant see your stack size but looks like you are getting around 1.5/1 on the call. However been c/r 4way on this board is pretty strong, and you having As knocks out some of his possible drawing hands. Idk I think I sighcall as KK, QQ unlikely but I dont hate a fold , as amybr says you are rarely in very good shape. Also bet flop bigger
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited August 2011

    just call and cross your fingers ) But not liking it much ...
    you have backdoor spades, outs to better set and 2 pr

    nit fold and he shows you draw :() or AK

    I can't fold this here
  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited August 2011
    outs a to a better set??.......

    I dont mind folding to some draws here, wouldnt be definitively bad.

    Dont think opponent would take this line with AK
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited August 2011
    Raise smaller pre 3x is good.

    Bet more on flop, at least £1.50 for me.

    Looks like you have 80 bigs behind, I probably call this looks like draw played strong, if he has set just make note.
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