Shove flop?

mattless

I know that the turn call is marginal, but is a shove better than a raise on flop?

Not been on table long but Player a solid reg, Player b I have notes that he called raise from sb with kk and c/r c bet.

Didn't expect call from b on flop, as soon as it came wished i'd shoved? Now feel pot stuck.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
RICK_1	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£10.10
lesammia30	Sitout
a	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£18.19
mardel501	Sit out
	Your hole cards	A 7
mattless	Raise		£0.80	£1.10	£20.77
b	Call		£0.80	£1.90	£19.46
RICK_1	Fold
a	Call		£0.60	£2.50	£17.59
Flop
		J 9 7
a	Bet		£1.88	£4.38	£15.71
mattless	Raise		£6.58	£10.96	£14.19
b	Call		£6.58	£17.54	£12.88
a	Fold
Turn
		K
mattless	Check
b	All-in		£12.88	£30.42	£0.00
mattless	Call		£12.88	£43.30	£1.31
mattless	Show	A 7
b	Show	K 8
River
		J
b	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and Jacks	£41.50		£41.50

DOHHHHHHH

Think I would shove the turn rather than c/calling.

percival09

if you take the line of raising flop which is fine, you have to def shove turn - and tbh, as played, you might even have to fold because i don't think you're getting the right odds, but i probz call aswell .. but you really want your opponent to fold, c/c is bad

yb

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Think I would shove the turn rather than c/calling.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

i'd also raise the flop a little bit smaller because often when people donkbet/call they will fold on the turn quite often imo so i'd want to maximise my fold equity when shoving turn

DOHHHHHHH

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this In Response to Re: Shove flop? : i'd also raise the flop a little bit smaller because often when people donkbet/call they will fold on the turn quite often imo so i'd want to maximise my fold equity when shoving turn
Posted by yb

You still like o shove the turn even if it's a blank card?

yb

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In Response to Re: Shove flop? : You still like o shove the turn even if it's a blank card?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

yeah if i wasn't planning on shoving most turns i wouldn't raise the flop

DOHHHHHHH

Which turns would you check/fold?