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trips v crazy opponent 200BB deep river action

The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
edited August 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Opponent is one of those super aggressive maniacs.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
The_Don90 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £7.30
Raziel101 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £3.67
 Your hole cards
  • J
  • K
   
cCall  £0.04 £0.10 £8.99
thethirdpo Fold     
Rakeme Call  £0.04 £0.14 £1.50
The_Don90 Call  £0.02 £0.16 £7.28
Raziel101 Check     
Flop
  
  • J
  • A
  • J
   
The_Don90 Bet  £0.16 £0.32 £7.12
Raziel101 Fold     
cCall  £0.16 £0.48 £8.83
Rakeme Fold     
Turn
  
  • Q
   
The_Don90 Bet  £0.36 £0.84 £6.76
cCall  £0.36 £1.20 £8.47
River
  
  • 3
   
The_Don90 Bet  £0.90 £2.10 £5.86
cRaise  £3.90 £6.00 £4.57
The_Don90 ?????
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  • Sky_DaveSky_Dave Member Posts: 3,288
    edited August 2011
    Jam. A lot of times he'll pay you off with a rag ace or smaller jack, which means it has to be profitable.

    I am not worried about those instances where he has a boat or got there with backdoor hearts as it's too infrequent for us to lose the value from the above (more plausible) holdings that a maniac will call off with.
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  • bolly580bolly580 Member Posts: 603
    edited August 2011
    Don cmon mte you gota be raising pre with these hands if ur guna play em.

    And for me its probably a crying call on the end. Although does look like he got a flush, unless his plan has been all along to flat the streets then try to get you off in the river with it being such a wet board, but yeah im calling here
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: trips v crazy opponent 200BB deep river action:
    Don cmon mte you gota be raising pre with these hands if ur guna play em. And for me its probably a crying call on the end. Although does look like he got a flush, unless his plan has been all along to flat the streets then try to get you off in the river with it being such a wet board, but yeah im calling here
    Posted by bolly580
    Likley ghet 3bet by a maniac by a wide range and have to fold. Happy to get to a flop hit big and take 200Bigs off him.
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  • Sky_DaveSky_Dave Member Posts: 3,288
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: trips v crazy opponent 200BB deep river action:
    In Response to Re: trips v crazy opponent 200BB deep river action : Likley ghet 3bet by a maniac by a wide range and have to fold. Happy to get to a flop hit big and take 200Bigs off him.
    Posted by The_Don90
    Or you could 4bet and stick it in his eye with pretty much any two once in a while if the guy is a super maniac...
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited August 2011

    The limp pre is by far the best move imo.

    The river isn't fun.

    I like the bet, it's a crying call at best.

    I think I would literally be crying when I hit call too.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited August 2011
    Gotta agree with the 'dont keep limpin' with these type of hands , IF im comin into this pot pre with KJ then im comin in with a raise xx
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: trips v crazy opponent 200BB deep river action:
    The limp pre is by far the best move imo. The river isn't fun. I like the bet, it's a crying call at best. I think I would literally be crying when I hit call too.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Cmon dohh even if ure entering this pot with 2 7 ure comin in with a RAISE ;))
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited August 2011
    limp pre is fine OOP, it under reps you hand and you can get good value by a weaker kicker by just c/c, c/r or just over betting river - does work

    IP always raise 


    just flat :s w/o reads

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  • MohicanMohican Member Posts: 1,435
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: trips v crazy opponent 200BB deep river action:
    In Response to Re: trips v crazy opponent 200BB deep river action : Or you could 4bet and stick it in his eye with pretty much any two once in a while if the guy is a super maniac...
    Posted by Sky_Dave
    Jam it in his eye, a man after my own heart. Are you sure you don't want to join Team HitSquad????
    Back to the hand, raise pre.
    As played call river. Sighhhh a lot if he's got there.
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited August 2011
    I'd prefer to raise pre here for value, call could be ok as you're VERY deep but I still like raise/fold.

    Flop I bet bigger at least 25p.

    Turn bigger again, at least like 60p.

    River if played betting bigger throughout I just shove.

    As played snap it off.
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited August 2011
    raise pre
    probz a call, dunno though quite close between call and fold imo - just because of your reads, i call
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited August 2011
    Limp pre is fine, if they really are crazy i do get in on river. I agree with Sky Dave's alot of the time its more likely they have rag ace, if they have you beat then UL make a note
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