river spot with top 2 pair

yb

pretty much readless on villain. he was multi-tabling (at least 5/6 because he was on most of my other tables) and i think i've played him a couple of times before but i've not got any history vs him. he'll probably see me as pretty aggressive and i'm going to be double barrelling this board a really high % of the time because it's a great card for me to continue on.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
x	Small blind		£0.50	£0.50	£385.32
SammyD	Big blind		£1.00	£1.50	£99.00
	Your hole cards	K Q
yb	Raise		£4.00	£5.50	£198.67
gerrard9	Fold
hhamza162	Fold
mantock93	Fold
x	Call		£3.50	£9.00	£381.82
SammyD	Fold
Flop
		Q 7 3
x	Check
yb	Bet		£6.00	£15.00	£192.67
x	Call		£6.00	£21.00	£375.82
Turn
		K
x	Check
yb	Bet		£14.00	£35.00	£178.67
x	Call		£14.00	£49.00	£361.82
River
		4
x	Check
yb	Bet		£36.00	£85.00	£142.67
x	Raise		£96.50	£181.50	£265.32

DOHHHHHHH

lol fuuuuu for even thinking about folding this.

Put me in a bad mood

YOUNG_GUN

unless he has a set you win

I'd shove , could have AK? im hoping he would raise the turn alot with sets or overpair, could be wrong

like i say im shoving but i suck

DOHHHHHHH

^^^^^

Why is shoving better than calling?

U prob just been relegated to a moth.

yb

In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair:

lol fuuuuu for even thinking about folding this. Put me in a bad mood
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

lol, but what do you think a random reg raises this river with?

luvBWFC

Shove will only be called by set surely? Call or fold.

yb

In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair:

unless he has a set you win I'd shove , could have AK? im hoping he would raise the turn alot with sets or overpair, could be wrong like i say im shoving but i suck
Posted by YOUNG_GUN

if he gets to the river with AK this way he's never doing anything other than c/cing

DOHHHHHHH

He's bluffing!!!!

They're ALWAYS bluffing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could have the same hand as you I suppose.

debdobs_67

Interesting hand here as the flop , and turn is still a rainbow so the only way oppo would keep callin here is surely with a set ?? OR a total bluff , ya gotta call tho xx

TommyD

Pretty much a perfect flop and turn to slowplay a set on.  Not saying I fold though, I'm a curious little station.

beaneh

If he cant raise river with 74 two pairs etc then we have to do a fold....

DOHHHHHHH

Do you guys never consider bluffs?

rancid

56,set,bluff - god knows

Don't understand no turn raise, he gotta be raising turn with sets

feels like 56 or bluff

still call though could be AK/Bluff/KQ  

debdobs_67

In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair:

Do you guys never consider bluffs?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

NEVER , unless of course ure the OPPO )

Die_hard

Strange hand methinks. Would put him on kq also, or if he's a tard then AA. Obviously could have a set or (less likely imo) a bluff.

Edit: If you know the outcome then he's never got KQ lol (else I presume you wouldn't be posting it )

He could also have a tardy QQ too lol.

If you know the player then KQ, if not then AA

percival09

i tend to call here knowing i'm behind

pryce6

In Response to Re: river spot with top 2 pair:

Strange hand methinks. Would put him on kq also, or if he's a tard then AA. Obviously could have a set or (less likely imo) a bluff. Edit: If you know the outcome then he's never got KQ lol (else I presume you wouldn't be posting it ) He could also have a tardy QQ too lol. If you know the player then KQ, if not then AA
Posted by Die_hard

Yes great thought process and analysis.

pryce6

I think it's a fold if we don't think he's capable of doing this as a bluff.

If it's who I think it is, he can't have K7/Q7 so we're pretty much going to get shown 33/77 all the time.

Dudeskin8

I snap this off.

LOL_RAISE

foldy moldy

yb

thanks for all the responses, fwiw i'm a spewbox and did call, and he showed AQ.

i agree that this should be a fold though until we know that the villain is capable of turning made hands into bluffs given that he never has total air here.