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i have to call here right?

The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
edited September 2011 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
jasp3315 Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £3.02
tonkar Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £1.57
 Your hole cards
  • K
  • Q
   
Micknick Fold     
The_Don90 Raise  £0.20 £0.26 £3.80
drumbeat99 Call  £0.20 £0.46 £2.18
DOWTOM Fold     
jasp3315 Fold     
tonkar Call  £0.16 £0.62 £1.41
Flop
  
  • 5
  • 7
  • 9
   
tonkar Check     
The_Don90 Bet  £0.47 £1.09 £3.33
drumbeat99 All-in  £2.18 £3.27 £0.00
tonkar All-in  £1.41 £4.68 £0.00
The_Don90 Call
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited September 2011
    I do
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited September 2011
    me too
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited September 2011
    yep

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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited September 2011
    yup
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  • BLACK_MASSBLACK_MASS Member Posts: 401
    edited September 2011

    I don't like it.
    You are definitely behind and one of those cats could have the A-x.
    Why do you think you HAVE to please ?
    Personally i would have checked the flop too.
    But hey i imagine a legion of people will disagree.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: i have to call here right?:
    I don't like it. You are definitely behind and one of those cats could have the A-x. Why do you think you HAVE to please ? Personally i would have checked the flop too. But hey i imagine a legion of people will disagree.
    Posted by BLACK_MASS
    I think the pot size for don to call is defo worth the gamble in this instance , if they all had 200+ bb's or summin then i can prob find a fold here , i hope xx
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  • BLACK_MASSBLACK_MASS Member Posts: 401
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: i have to call here right?:
    In Response to Re: i have to call here right? : I think the pot size for don to call is defo worth the gamble in this instance , if they all had 200+ bb's or summin then i can prob find a fold here , i hope xx
    Posted by debdobs_67
    Effectively tho he's calling 2 all ins. So i figure usually 1 of them has made hand of some description and 1 of them often is drawing.
    If 1 of them is drawing to flush they have 2 of Dons outs. Sometimes they have A-x and his flush draw is useless.
    It just struck me as unwise under those circumstances. It is a gamble and one he doesn't have to make. He cant even be sure that his K or Q are live.
    If the counter argument is yeah but it's nl4 so they are fish poos or whatever then i still don't think it's a good argument on principle. Just because our opponents play poorly it is not a good reason to do the same.
    If he had have checked things might have been different.
    I'm just telling you how i'd do it tbh. Maybe i'm too tight/passive but i spend my time looking for more favourable spots than this if i choose to call all ins.
    We'll probably find out that they are both insane and doing it with air in which case i stand corrected.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: i have to call here right?:
    In Response to Re: i have to call here right? : Effectively tho he's calling 2 all ins. So i figure usually 1 of them has made hand of some description and 1 of them often is drawing. If 1 of them is drawing to flush they have 2 of Dons outs. Sometimes they have A-x and his flush draw is useless. It just struck me as unwise under those circumstances. It is a gamble and one he doesn't have to make. He cant even be sure that his K or Q are live. If the counter argument is yeah but it's nl4 so they are fish poos or whatever then i still don't think it's a good argument on principle. Just because our opponents play poorly it is not a good reason to do the same. If he had have checked things might have been different. I'm just telling you how i'd do it tbh. Maybe i'm too tight/passive but i spend my time looking for more favourable spots than this if i choose to call all ins. We'll probably find out that they are both insane and doing it with air in which case i stand corrected.
    Posted by BLACK_MASS
    Ya do make very very gd points and maybe ya may even be right , i still call tho ;)) xx
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  • BLACK_MASSBLACK_MASS Member Posts: 401
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: i have to call here right?:
    Ya do make very very gd points and maybe ya may even be right , i still call tho ;)) xx
    Posted by debdobs_67


    Oh sod it i will too then. GAMBLE !!!!!!!!!!   it's worth it for the rush.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: i have to call here right?:
    In Response to Re: i have to call here right? : Ya do make very very gd points and maybe ya may even be right , i still call tho ;)) xx Posted by debdobs_67
    Oh sod it i will too then. GAMBLE !!!!!!!!!!   it's worth it for the rush.
    Posted by BLACK_MASS

    There ya go we converted ya from bein a decent player to a total donk like the rest of us xxx
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  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited September 2011
    Wild horses do not stop me hitting the call button.
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited September 2011
    Due to stack sizes and large cbet I think I would have to then call here not overly happy about it though.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited September 2011

    I might fold if I disconnected. Once you bet that flop you are not folding

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  • sillymunchsillymunch Member Posts: 299
    edited September 2011
    let me guess, drumbeat has A/K - 9
    Tonkar is sitting nicely with the set of 7's
    and you called and hit your flush beating em both :) or did he manage to get a full house by the end of it ;o
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