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AK 3bet then 4bet by REG

Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
edited September 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Seizer Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £6.69
Dudeskin8 Big blind   £0.10 £0.15 £9.90
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • K
     
Robbo67 Call   £0.10 £0.25 £8.52
FinalFlush Fold        
x Raise   £0.30 £0.55 £10.66
Seizer Fold        
Dudeskin8 Raise   £1.00 £1.55 £8.90
Robbo67 Fold        
x Raise   £3.20 £4.75 £7.46
Dudeskin8

Comments

  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited September 2011
    snapshove

    Cant see how you could 3b/f AK btn v blind without some really specific read, even if his sizing is bad
  • CrazyBen23CrazyBen23 Member Posts: 865
    edited September 2011
    This is the most standard hand i've ever seen
  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited September 2011
    i wouldnt ever fold AK pf @nl10p
  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited September 2011
    Depends if you have reads on player regardless of level if you know how they play you can make a fold here. I don't like shove with AK on any cash table as its not a made hand.
    Your never ahead here against a good player at best your against QQ in my opinion but easily could be KK AA or AK its never going to be AQ AJ TT 99 88 maybe JJ so you know you have to hit to win. Taking all this into account and you saying he is a reg so im guessing decent player i fold
  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited September 2011
    Yep agree with batkin who sums up the situation perfect
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited September 2011
    All in, can you not define regs?? seriously we get alot saying v reg or no reads would help if you had any

    if readless then ez shove
  • jakallyjakally Member Posts: 421
    edited September 2011

    It's a shove definitely, (particularly given it's Btn vs BB) unless their 4b range is ultra tight..... but it's probably a bit of a sigh knowing that you are getting called almost always, and you are not dominating v.often. 

    Much better if their is some dynamic, such as you've 3b them a couple of times already etc...




  • jakallyjakally Member Posts: 421
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: AK 3bet then 4bet by REG:
    Depends if you have reads on player regardless of level if you know how they play you can make a fold here. I don't like shove with AK on any cash table as its not a made hand. Your never ahead here against a good player at best your against QQ in my opinion but easily could be KK AA or AK its never going to be AQ AJ TT 99 88 maybe JJ so you know you have to hit to win. Taking all this into account and you saying he is a reg so im guessing decent player i fold
    Posted by Batkin88

    Firstly, if he is a decent player, he is more likely to have a light 4b in his range.

    Agree we aren't in great shape often, but the fact we are only 100BB's deep, and there is effectively 20BB's in the middle that I'm leaving behind if I fold, means that the shove is probably marginally profitable, even if he never 4b bluffs.
    If he 4b bluffs sometimes it makes it more profitable.

    It also adds balance to the times we shove AA/KK  in these spots and want calls from QQ/JJ/AK etc...

  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited September 2011
    do many 4b light at nl 10??????
  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: AK 3bet then 4bet by REG:
    do many 4b light at nl 10??????
    Posted by pod1
    NO
  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited September 2011
    Just as a side note , you have posted quite a few AK situations in the past few days dudeskin so have you worked out how much youve made/lost in these hands , just interested
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