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When is a good fold not a good fold?

bandinibandini Member Posts: 1,802
edited September 2011 in Brags, Beats and Variance
Been shaking my head in disbelief for about three weeks now at the things happening to me on the tables. This typifies it. Cruel game, sigh.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
POKERTREV Small blind  20.00 20.00 1640.00
mcfesta26 Big blind  40.00 60.00 2000.00
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
     
Snakeman08 Fold     
POKERPACHO Fold     
softail Raise  120.00 180.00 3977.50
bandini Raise  440.00 620.00 2258.75
POKERTREV All-in  1640.00 2260.00 0.00
mcfesta26 Fold     
softail All-in  3977.50 6237.50 0.00
bandini Fold     
softail Unmatched bet  2437.50 3800.00 2437.50
POKERTREV Show
  • K
  • K
   
softail Show
  • A
  • A
   
Flop
   
  • 2
  • 6
  • 6
     
Turn
   
  • 10
     
River
   
  • Q
     
softail Win Two Pairs, Aces and 6s 3800.00
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  • BLACK_MASSBLACK_MASS Member Posts: 401
    edited September 2011
    In Response to When is a good fold not a good fold?:

    But if you hit call the pack which is in flux stops in a different place and deals differently ( most likely ) so you did right man. Gratz.
    Maybe the answer to this question is when it's a fold in the fabric of time   8/
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  • bandinibandini Member Posts: 1,802
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: When is a good fold not a good fold?:
    In Response to When is a good fold not a good fold? : But if you hit call the pack which is in flux stops in a different place and deals differently ( most likely ) so you did right man. Gratz. Maybe the answer to this question is when it's a fold in the fabric of time   8/
    Posted by BLACK_MASS
    3.15AM quantum physics ftw! ;-)
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited September 2011
    previous 3 times my a/10 been done by a/j twice and a/k not this time, fought my way back from short stack so folded this time.
     Small blind  2000.00 2000.00 57931.25
    satorisam Big blind  4000.00 6000.00 53295.00
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • 10
    		   
    FishFeast Fold     
    jthej Fold     
    spornybol Fold     
    spudefc Fold     
    hughes1982 Raise  10000.00 16000.00 47931.25
    satorisam Call  8000.00 24000.00 45295.00
    Flop
      
    • A
    • A
    • A
    		   
    hughes1982 Bet  12000.00 36000.00 35931.25
    satorisam Call  12000.00 48000.00 33295.00
    Turn
      
    • 5
    		   
    hughes1982 Check     
    satorisam All-in  33295.00 81295.00 0.00
    hughes1982 Fold     
    satorisam Muck     
    satorisam Win  48000.00  48000.00
    satorisam Return  33295.00 0.00 81295.00
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  • bandinibandini Member Posts: 1,802
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: When is a good fold not a good fold?:
    previous 3 times my a/10 been done by a/j twice and a/k not this time, fought my way back from short stack so folded this time.   Small blind   2000.00 2000.00 57931.25 satorisam Big blind   4000.00 6000.00 53295.00   Your hole cards A 10       FishFeast Fold         jthej Fold         spornybol Fold         spudefc Fold         hughes1982 Raise   10000.00 16000.00 47931.25 satorisam Call   8000.00 24000.00 45295.00 Flop     A A A       hughes1982 Bet   12000.00 36000.00 35931.25 satorisam Call   12000.00 48000.00 33295.00 Turn     5       hughes1982 Check         satorisam All-in   33295.00 81295.00 0.00 hughes1982 Fold         satorisam Muck         satorisam Win   48000.00   48000.00 satorisam Return   33295.00 0.00 81295.00 Prev Close window Next
    Posted by spornybol
    lololol

    The Gods test us Sporny, the Gods test us. Best just to laugh in their face.
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited September 2011
    OK HAD ODDS TO CALL BUT BETTER KICKER ll
     Small blind  150.00 150.00 24118.75
    spornybol Big blind  300.00 450.00 9220.00
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • 5
    		   
    crimsonbab Raise  600.00 1050.00 15365.00
    jim313wfm Fold     
    feek1 Call  600.00 1650.00 25060.00
    hkcan Fold     
    chiprat Fold     
    spornybol Fold     
    Flop
      
    • 5
    • A
    • 5
    		   
    crimsonbab Bet  900.00 2550.00 14465.00
    feek1 Fold     
    crimsonbab Muck     
    crimsonbab Win  1650.00  16115.00
    crimsonbab Return  900.00 0.00 17015.00
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  • BLACK_MASSBLACK_MASS Member Posts: 401
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: When is a good fold not a good fold?:
    OK HAD ODDS TO CALL BUT BETTER KICKER ll 
    Posted by spornybol

    Don't even think about these things spornybol. It's a total waste of energy and yeah the kicker sucked and it went into the muck where it belonged. GF man.
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: When is a good fold not a good fold?:
    In Response to Re: When is a good fold not a good fold? : OK HAD ODDS TO CALL BUT BETTER KICKER ll  Posted by spornybol
    Don't even think about these things spornybol. It's a total waste of energy and yeah the kicker sucked and it went into the muck where it belonged. GF man.
    Posted by BLACK_MASS

    i don`t dwell on them, i think it`s funny that i fold hand like this and the flop hits, yet when i get premiere hands and do norm raising or flat to trap, they never hit.
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  • BLACK_MASSBLACK_MASS Member Posts: 401
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: When is a good fold not a good fold?:
     i don`t dwell on them, i think it`s funny that i fold hand like this and the flop hits, yet when i get premiere hands and do norm raising or flat to trap, they never hit.
    Posted by spornybol

    It may seem that way but however you look at it the hand has been consigned to eternity. A gf is a gf because it works out over time. It doesn't make it a bf if you would have hit a monstie on that particular hand.
    I know that you know this already. I just want to make sure that you aren't tempted to make these calls because you get wound up. That's when things get really sick.
    It's ok to vent about stuff if you like. It makes some people feel better. You are obviously passionate about poker which is good.
    However.....try this out maybe. EVERY time you feel an emotional response in a game stamp on it mentally. Straight away think DID I DO THE RIGHT THING ? I f the answer is yes then say GOOD I WILL NOT CAPITULATE AND LESSEN MY STANDARDS ! Move on, next hand, what are the blinds, when do they go up ? Who here is playing sub-optimally ? Have i got position on them ? Will they respect a standard raise ? etc etc.
    Try to focus on constructive thought rather than negative emotion. It takes effort tho and you have to practice it. Over and over till it's second nature.
    You may as well because being wound up doesn't  change anything for the better EVER and that isn't because i say so it's because this is the way of the world and it's tough but it's the same for everyone on the planet and probably aliens too.
    Just trying to help Spornybol. It's none of my business to be fair so if you don't want to hear it anymore just say and i'll can it.
    “The happiness of your life* depends upon the quality of your thoughts.”
    ― Marcus Aurelius  ( * For life read poker. )    Gl man.
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: When is a good fold not a good fold?:
    In Response to Re: When is a good fold not a good fold? :  i don`t dwell on them, i think it`s funny that i fold hand like this and the flop hits, yet when i get premiere hands and do norm raising or flat to trap, they never hit. Posted by spornybol
    It may seem that way but however you look at it the hand has been consigned to eternity. A gf is a gf because it works out over time. It doesn't make it a bf if you would have hit a monstie on that particular hand. I know that you know this already . I just want to make sure that you aren't tempted to make these calls because you get wound up. That's when things get really sick. It's ok to vent about stuff if you like. It makes some people feel better. You are obviously passionate about poker which is good. However.....try this out maybe. EVERY time you feel an emotional response in a game stamp on it mentally. Straight away think DID I DO THE RIGHT THING ? I f the answer is yes then say GOOD I WILL NOT CAPITULATE AND LESSEN MY STANDARDS ! Move on, next hand, what are the blinds, when do they go up ? Who here is playing sub-optimally ? Have i got position on them ? Will they respect a standard raise ? etc etc. Try to focus on constructive thought rather than negative emotion. It takes effort tho and you have to practice it. Over and over till it's second nature. You may as well because being wound up doesn't  change anything for the better EVER and that isn't because i say so it's because this is the way of the world and it's tough but it's the same for everyone on the planet and probably aliens too. Just trying to help Spornybol. It's none of my business to be fair so if you don't want to hear it anymore just say and i'll can it. “The happiness of your life* depends upon the quality of your thoughts.” ― Marcus Aurelius   ( * For life read poker. )    Gl man.
    Posted by BLACK_MASS

    yep i now this but is always a good reminder, i`ve been done with a bad beat that knackered my stack once BUT i NEVER let it too me as, 1 i took a step back to see if i could have done differant 2 as a break was in 4/5 mins knew  i could take a breather if i could last that long . 3 i have the patients off a saint ( we,ll am married).
    so as it happens after the break gettng decent card also picking spot  ended winnning the tournie.
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