I think the charity should be decided in advance and go to something everyone agrees is worthwhile - Children in Need ( and it would do the Skypoker community no harm to present a cheque on the big night )- Disaster relief or similar. I would slightly resent entering to find the winner deciding that my money goes to the local dogs home or whatever . And a target always produces a better result than otherwise. As for the formatt - keep it simple and cheap and make it a rebuy to encourage more entries who can then decide how much they want to contribute at each stage. Posted by tiercel
I am not averse to this idea to be fair, as long as the community all have a say on which Charity to support and agree on it.
I still prefer a charitable fund that would support several charities, but that is just my personal opinion.
I think the charity should be decided in advance and go to something everyone agrees is worthwhile - Children in Need ( and it would do the Skypoker community no harm to present a cheque on the big night )- Disaster relief or similar. I would slightly resent entering to find the winner deciding that my money goes to the local dogs home or whatever . And a target always produces a better result than otherwise. As for the formatt - keep it simple and cheap and make it a rebuy to encourage more entries who can then decide how much they want to contribute at each stage. Posted by tiercel
There was a thread a bit ago where someone suggested a tournament for a certain charity. Tikay pointed out that Sky already have designated charities that they support and that they wouldn't want to "compromise", for lack of a better word, their position. I know some of the ideas on this thread are slightly different and I would support it if it came to fruition but I foresee a problem. What if someone wanted to donate but didn't want to play all 3 DTD tourneys or indeed any? There are lots of players on here who specialize eg. cash, MTTs, Bhs, SnGs, DYMs etc.Maybe the answer would be to keep it simple and stick a donate button on every players account page
Thanks all for your suggestions. Some good ideas from the community as always. Totally agree that the contributions should be voluntary, hence my idea for a seperate tournament. I am not averse to a voluntary element being attached to the DTD, but think it only fair to consult Michael and Chris on this, as I don't want to be seen to be hijacking their competition. I still haven't heard from anyone from Sky if this idea will be feasible, as I know there will be some legalities to sort out, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Keep the suggestions coming folk. Posted by 67Bhoys
Morning, Sir.
I know this was widely discussed at Nottingham, & I certainly said I would help, personally, in any way I can, & in fact I committed to making an appropriate donation, & I stand by that.
The position as to the Company - Sky Poker - becoming involved - is much, much, more complex, & difficult. I think Maxally's Post summed that area up pretty well.
"still not heard from Sky". After we discussed this in Nottingham, you wrote to me - & 7 others - on Monday of last week, & you wrote to me again on Friday. (Apologies, I was offline Friday & Saturday). I will try & reply to all the PM's as soon as I can, & apologise for the delay. You may be interested to know that last week alone, SEVENTEEN different players sent me ideas/proposals for "Community based" Tournaments or Promotions, these came to me via PM's, e-Mails, even texts, & it really is a job to try & keep pace with all these, splendid as they are. Please bear with me, & I'll reply to them all soonest.
As to your wonderful idea, as I said before, yes, I will definitely donate, & help, in any way I can.
Hi Tikay. On behalf of the community, I would like to thank you for your response.
You are always very helpful and supportive of the community even in times of adversity, so for this we thank you. To be honest i'm very surprised you find the time to get through half of the things you do as I have no doubt it can be a very hectic task at times.
I hope you will agree that some of the suggestions for a "Charity Tournament" have been very good, however, I think we are all aware that put into practice, this is not so simple, but hopefully at some point achievable.
Obviously it needs a good brain storming session as to the practicalities and the legalities of putting on this type of event, but hopefully given time we will be able to move things forward in a progressive manor.
In the meantime, thank you very much for your welcomed support.
In Response to Re: Sky Community Charity Tournament : Morning, Sir. I know this was widely discussed at Nottingham, & I certainly said I would help, personally, in any way I can, & in fact I committed to making an appropriate donation, & I stand by that. The position as to the Company - Sky Poker - becoming involved - is much, much, more complex, & difficult. I think Maxally's Post summed that area up pretty well. "still not heard from Sky". After we discussed this in Nottingham, you wrote to me - & 7 others - on Monday of last week, & you wrote to me again on Friday. (Apologies, I was offline Friday & Saturday). I will try & reply to all the PM's as soon as I can, & apologise for the delay. You may be interested to know that last week alone, SEVENTEEN different players sent me ideas/proposals for "Community based" Tournaments or Promotions, these came to me via PM's, e-Mails, even texts, & it really is a job to try & keep pace with all these, splendid as they are. Please bear with me, & I'll reply to them all soonest. As to your wonderful idea, as I said before, yes, I will definitely donate, & help, in any way I can. Posted by Tikay10
Thanks for your reply Tikay, I understand that there are certain pitfalls and legalities on the Sky side for implementing this Idea.
I hope that you have had time to read some of the suggestions on this thread, and would appreciate your or Skys thoughts on them.
I agree with Trev that it might require a bit of brainstorming to bring some of these ideas to fruition. As I stated in a previous post, I like JJ's Idea of a voluntary button for the DTD, but would certainly not want to be seen to be hijacking Chris and Michaels baby.
I think we have a great community here on Sky and would like to thank everyone who I have spoken to personaly and who have posted on this thread for their support.
hi all loving the ideas being thrown about but being new and only started recently posting on forums i have absolutely no idea how to contribute with ideas or how to even start this so i wont pretend to know, i would however like to say being one of the smaller unknown players not in any team who plays alot of mtt's, b/h, satalites and recently joined the dtd mondays i would gladly pay an extra 50p a week for the milti entry or whatever way its set up if this charity idea takes off
cracking thread...... with some great ideas as always, I personally would support any decision as to how to go about this Posted by scouse_red
Thanks Chris, I have stated before in this thread that I quite like JJ's idea, but it involved the DTD, which I hadn't contemplated. This would obviously have to be discussed with yourself and Michael.
I still don't know if this is going to feasible on Skys side of things, but I live in hope.
In Response to Re: Sky Community Charity Tournament : Thanks Chris, I have stated before in this thread that I quite like JJ's idea, but it involved the DTD, which I hadn't contemplated. This would obviously have to be discussed with yourself and Michael. I still don't know if this is going to feasible on Skys side of things, but I live in hope. Posted by 67Bhoys
hi Craig
just a quick post to remind you what tikay told you in nottingham.
sky are legally bound to pay the entry money for a tourney out to the winner, so to get the money for the charity would be down to trust, i am sure that 99.99999999% of people there would be no problem with but it becomes a problem when someone says no because legally the money is there`s, so it may be an idea for a closed tourney or the donation route suggested by jj might just be the way.
In Response to Re: Sky Community Charity Tournament : hi Craig just a quick post to remind you what tikay told you in nottingham. sky are legally bound to pay the entry money for a tourney out to the winner, so to get the money for the charity would be down to trust, i am sure that 99.99999999% of people there would be no problem with but it becomes a problem when someone says no because legally the money is there`s, so it may be an idea for a closed tourney or the donation route suggested by jj might just be the way. RAB :-)))) Posted by RAB642
Hi mate, it becomes more apparent that the suggestion JJ has come up with might be the only way round the legalities. If players want to contribute, they register through the charity medium, and if they don't, they enter through the normal poker lobby.
personally i think trying to combine a charity donation with the dtd would just complicate matters.
a seperate closed tourney on another night is surely the easiest and best route? like rab says though it would all be down to trust i can't see many, if any, people winning then refusing to donate it to charity but it only takes one person to win and then decide they are keeping the money for the whole thing to become a bit of a farce.....if this did happened then i would certainly not play again just so i can line somebody elses pocket (there are plenty of normal mtt's in which i already do that!! lol)
personally i think trying to combine a charity donation with the dtd would just complicate matters. a seperate closed tourney on another night is surely the easiest and best route? like rab says though it would all be down to trust i can't see many, if any, people winning then refusing to donate it to charity but it only takes one person to win and then decide they are keeping the money for the whole thing to become a bit of a farce.....if this did happened then i would certainly not play again just so i can line somebody elses pocket (there are plenty of normal mtt's in which i already do that!! lol) Posted by waller02
I think this is why it would be a seperate ammount. So say it's a £2.20 buyin, £1 of that goes to charity and the rest goes to the prize pool or something.
Why not donate to a different charity each month .Draw up a list detailing the charity for each month ie: Oct Children in Need , Nov Mcmillan Cancer and so on . That way everyone would know what the charity would be in advance . I like both Bhoys67 and Dohhs ideas but format would be better sorted out by SKY In Response to Re: Sky Community Charity Tournament:
Or even a survivor on the same principle . n Response to Re: Sky Community Charity Tournament : Posted by tiercel
Personally i have no probs playing for charity, but sky would have to take the monies out pre tourney, or in the winnings. It's not that i'm dishonest, but i have my account on here, and no other poker account on any other site, so sending the donation would be difficult, especially as i am not prepared to send my bank or credit card details etc to fellow players. If skypoker don't remove the monies for the charities, are there any other ways of sorting the payments out?
Personally i have no probs playing for charity, but sky would have to take the monies out pre tourney, or in the winnings. It's not that i'm dishonest, but i have my account on here, and no other poker account on any other site, so sending the donation would be difficult, especially as i am not prepared to send my bank or credit card details etc to fellow players. If skypoker don't remove the monies for the charities, are there any other ways of sorting the payments out? Posted by loonytoons
I think that this is the major stumbling block here. Originally I envisioned Sky collecting and distributing the funds. I think everyone would agree that this would be preferable. Wether it is feasible for them to do this I don't know.
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I still prefer a charitable fund that would support several charities, but that is just my personal opinion.
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I know this was widely discussed at Nottingham, & I certainly said I would help, personally, in any way I can, & in fact I committed to making an appropriate donation, & I stand by that.
The position as to the Company - Sky Poker - becoming involved - is much, much, more complex, & difficult. I think Maxally's Post summed that area up pretty well.
"still not heard from Sky". After we discussed this in Nottingham, you wrote to me - & 7 others - on Monday of last week, & you wrote to me again on Friday. (Apologies, I was offline Friday & Saturday). I will try & reply to all the PM's as soon as I can, & apologise for the delay. You may be interested to know that last week alone, SEVENTEEN different players sent me ideas/proposals for "Community based" Tournaments or Promotions, these came to me via PM's, e-Mails, even texts, & it really is a job to try & keep pace with all these, splendid as they are. Please bear with me, & I'll reply to them all soonest.
As to your wonderful idea, as I said before, yes, I will definitely donate, & help, in any way I can.
On behalf of the community, I would like to thank you for your response.
You are always very helpful and supportive of the community even in times of adversity, so for this we thank you. To be honest i'm very surprised you find the time to get through half of the things you do as I have no doubt it can be a very hectic task at times.
I hope you will agree that some of the suggestions for a "Charity Tournament" have been very good, however, I think we are all aware that put into practice, this is not so simple, but hopefully at some point achievable.
Obviously it needs a good brain storming session as to the practicalities and the legalities of putting on this type of event, but hopefully given time we will be able to move things forward in a progressive manor.
In the meantime, thank you very much for your welcomed support.
Regards
Pokertrev
I hope that you have had time to read some of the suggestions on this thread, and would appreciate your or Skys thoughts on them.
I agree with Trev that it might require a bit of brainstorming to bring some of these ideas to fruition. As I stated in a previous post, I like JJ's Idea of a voluntary button for the DTD, but would certainly not want to be seen to be hijacking Chris and Michaels baby.
I think we have a great community here on Sky and would like to thank everyone who I have spoken to personaly and who have posted on this thread for their support.
I still don't know if this is going to feasible on Skys side of things, but I live in hope.
a seperate closed tourney on another night is surely the easiest and best route? like rab says though it would all be down to trust i can't see many, if any, people winning then refusing to donate it to charity but it only takes one person to win and then decide they are keeping the money for the whole thing to become a bit of a farce.....if this did happened then i would certainly not play again just so i can line somebody elses pocket (there are plenty of normal mtt's in which i already do that!! lol)
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I think this is why it would be a seperate ammount. So say it's a £2.20 buyin, £1 of that goes to charity and the rest goes to the prize pool or something.
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Or if it's simply not possible to do via Sky we could setup a justgiving page each month for a different charity.
The winner of the monthly DTD league for the previous months gets to choose the charity.