In Response to Re: THE MICKJENN1 FAN CLUB, JOIN FOR GOOD BANTER AND SUM TIPS HOW 2 PLAY MTTS : you cant leave what you aint getting lol x Posted by beaujolais
y dont we have a game just a friendly lets c wat u got x
In Response to Re: THE MICKJENN1 FAN CLUB, JOIN FOR GOOD BANTER AND SUM TIPS HOW 2 PLAY MTTS : y dont we have a game just a friendly lets c wat u got x Posted by mickjenn1
In Response to Re: THE MICKJENN1 FAN CLUB, JOIN FOR GOOD BANTER AND SUM TIPS HOW 2 PLAY MTTS : i got more then you can handle lol x Posted by beaujolais
by the looks of them puppies u have but i got big hands.........am willing 2 take my chance x
In Response to Re: THE MICKJENN1 FAN CLUB, JOIN FOR GOOD BANTER AND SUM TIPS HOW 2 PLAY MTTS : by the looks of them puppies u have but i got big hands.........am willing 2 take my chance x Posted by mickjenn1
i will give you some great pointers if you cant handle 2 mick
What do you reckon mick's chances are with beaujolais lads out of 10? Posted by JAMIEP
Can i use non whole numbers Jamie?
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May have given him a slightly high chance, but had to factor in Beaujolais being drunk/left her glasses at home and that she had Lost her sense of smell and touch
LOL Foot note: thanks to Ed Giddins for helping me with the maths.... Gary
In Response to Re: THE MICKJENN1 FAN CLUB, JOIN FOR GOOD BANTER AND SUM TIPS HOW 2 PLAY MTTS : i thought u was goin 2 sleep on it then, ur up late aint ya x Posted by mickjenn1
hi mick , great tournament the other day , pleased for you that you got such a great turnout . you put in the effort and got your reward , well done . unfortunatly for me ,i sat at a table with someone ,who spoiled the atmosphere . i kept stumm . that wont happen again , lol . i will give that player some constructive criticism next time , without getting myself chat banned lol. ..... mick , i could do with some advise about poker ,hope this is the right place to ask. could you or someone please help with the following . i need to know ,what are the correct odds to call ,if i have a up and down straight draw , when someone is betting into me. i understand there are other things to take into account but just a general rule of thumb will do. any advice will be welcome ,thanks.
hi mick , great tournament the other day , pleased for you that you got such a great turnout . you put in the effort and got your reward , well done . unfortunatly for me ,i sat at a table with someone ,who spoiled the atmosphere . i kept stumm . that wont happen again , lol . i will give that player some constructive criticism next time , without getting myself chat banned lol. ..... mick , i could do with some advise about poker ,hope this is the right place to ask. could you or someone please help with the following . i need to know ,what are the correct odds to call ,if i have a up and down straight draw , when someone is betting into me. i understand there are other things to take into account but just a general rule of thumb will do. any advice will be welcome ,thanks. Posted by PILLOWMAN
hi m8
After the flop determine the number of outs you have.Multiply that number by 4. That is your percentage of catching one of your outs.After the turn you multiply your outs by 2.Example: You have two hearts. Two more hearts fall on the flop, so you have 9 outs. 9 x 4 = 36, giving you 36% chance to hit your flush and your opponent a 64% chance to hold up and win. 64/36 is a little less than 2 to 1. Therefore, it would make sense to call bets slightly higher than half the pot size. If another heart doesn't hit on the turn you are now 9 x 2 = 18% 18%/82% is a little less than 5 to 1, meaning the bet has to be less than 20% of the pot.DrawHandFlopSpecific Outs# Outs 4♠ 4♥6♣ 7♦ T♠4♦, 4♣2One OvercardA♠ 4♥6♥ 2♦ J♣A♦, A♥, A♣3Inside Straight6♣ 7♦5♠ 9♥ A♦8♣, 8♦, 8♥, 8♠4Two Pair to Full HouseA♦ J♥5♠ A♠ J♦A♥, A♣, J♠, J♣4One Pair to Two Pair or SetJ♣ Q♦J♦ 3♣ 4♠J♥, J♠, Q♠, Q♥, Q♣5No Pair to Pair3♦ 6♣8♥ J♦ A♣3♣, 3♠, 3♥, 6♥, 6♠, 6♦6Two Overcards to Over PairA♣ K♦3♦ 2♥ 8♥A♥, A♠, A♦, K♥, K♣, K♠6Set to Full House or Quads5♥ 5♦5♣ Q♥ 2♠5♠ Q♠, Q♦, Q♣, 2♥, 2♦, 2♣7Open Straight9♥ T♣3♣ 8♦ J♥Any 7, Any Q8FlushA♥ K♥3♥ 5♠ 7♥Any heart (2♥ to Q♥)9Inside Straight & Two OvercardsA♥ K♣Q♠ J♣ 6♦Any Ten, A♠, A♦ A♣, K♠, K♥, K♦10Flush & Inside StraightK♣ J♣A♣ 2♣ T♥Any Q, Any club12Flush and Open StraightJ♥ T♥9♣ Q♥ 3♥Any heart, 8♦, 8♠, 8♣, K♦, K♠, K♣15 outs
Calculating Pot OddsThe concept of pot odds is easy to learn and in my opinion is one of the most important concepts of playing winning poker, especially no limit hold'em.It's simply, the relationship, expressed as a ratio, between the size of the bet you are making or calling, and the number of bets those bets in the pot. For example, if there is 12$ in the pot and you need to call a 3$ bet, you are getting 4:1 pot odds, expressed as 4:1.To have good enough pot odds, generally you need to have better pot odds than your chance of winning the hand. So if you think you only have a 20% chance to win the hand, you should only play that hand if there is 5 times your bet or more in the pot. This is a risk/reward ratio - if you risk losing the bet, you need to have a big enough reward to make it affordable.Pot odds can be used during different situations, including calling bets or drawing to a straight or flush. For example, if you need to call 5$ with a 25% chance to win a hand, there needs to be 4 or more times the size of your bet in the pot, or 20$.BEFORE THE FLOP: especially when you are playing weaker hands trying to hit a flop, ex. suited connectors and small pairs, be aware if the pot is big enough for you to take a flop and try to hit your hand. To have good enough odds, generally you need to have better pot odds than your chance of winning the hand. So if you think you only have a 20% chance to win the hand, you should only play that hand if there is 5 times your bet or more in the pot. This is a risk/reward ratio - if you risk losing the bet, you need to have a big enough reward to make it affordable.AFTER THE FLOP: This will mainly be applied when you are drawing to a hand, but the same rule applies, you must have better pot odds then your chance of winning, so it will be profitable in the long run if you hit. To apply this, you need to know how many outs you have, and what percentage this gives you to win the hand. Below is a chart drawing odds from a deck of 47 unseen cards.Good players will also use these when defending the best hand. When you are playing with the best hand, especially against loose players, you can put in a bet that gives the player bad odds to call if you think he will play anyway, or if you want to just win the pot right away you can put an oversized bet in that is clearly not an affordable price to draw. This is just one of the ways that you can tilt pot odds in your favor.Drawing odds from a deck of 47 unseen cardsOuts2 Cards to Come1 Card to come2067.5%43.5%1965.0%41.3%1862.4%39.1%1759.8%37.0%1657.0%34.8%1554.1%32.6%1451.2%30.4%1451.2%30.4%1451.2%30.4%1348.1%28.3%1245.0%26.1%1141.7%23.9%1038.4%21.7%935.0%19.6%831.5%17.4%727.8%15.2%624.1%13.0%520.4%10.9%416.5%8.7%312.5%6.5%28.4%4.3%14.3%2.2%BLUFFING: Pot odds must also be considered when bluffing. Over and Over again I have seen people bluff all in to attempt to steal the smaller blinds: an incredibly high risk for a very small reward. The mathematical rule for bluffing is that THE POT ODDS MUST BE GREATER THAN THE ODDS OF SUCCESSFULLY PULLING OFF THE BLUFF.For example, if you estimate the odds of bluffing and winning at 1 in 5, then there must be more than 5 bets in the pot when you attempt the bluff. This means that you can bluff 1 10th the size of the pot and lose 9 times, and you win in the long run if you win the 10th time. HOWEVER, be careful when playing against bad players, who are often "un-bluffable". Make sure you consider that your chance of bluffing bad players is very small, and use this move scarcely.As you can see, pot odds can make you a winning player in many aspects of the game, and it is essential to always be thinking about pot odds in the risk/reward game that is poker.
Mick your advice posts about mtt's are definitely more eloquent to the usual filth that comes out ur mouth! Posted by phil12uk
like it says on the tin phil my good little erchin of a friend.......... join for good banter and sum tips how 2 play mtts.
its just i have 2 keep every1 happy m8, and i no u already got the pot odds thing in ur little brain sumwhere, lol, think im gonna get 100 lines and half hour detention of mr jenkins in min,
nice one mick , plenty there for me to think about . i had a general idea before hand but the information you have given me will be PROFITABLE in the long run. im comftable with odds as i used to be into horse racing before switching to poker. big thankyou .
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Has Mick`s picture changed?
Thought i could see steam for a minute
LOL
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May have given him a slightly high chance, but had to factor in Beaujolais being drunk/left her glasses at home and that she had Lost her sense of smell and touch
LOL
Foot note: thanks to Ed Giddins for helping me with the maths....
Gary
hmmmmm
lol x
9 x 4 = 36, giving you 36% chance to hit your flush and your opponent a 64% chance to hold up and win.
64/36 is a little less than 2 to 1. Therefore, it would make sense to call bets slightly higher than half the pot size.
If another heart doesn't hit on the turn you are now 9 x 2 = 18%
18%/82% is a little less than 5 to 1, meaning the bet has to be less than 20% of the pot.DrawHandFlopSpecific Outs# Outs 4♠ 4♥6♣ 7♦ T♠4♦, 4♣2One OvercardA♠ 4♥6♥ 2♦ J♣A♦, A♥, A♣3Inside Straight6♣ 7♦5♠ 9♥ A♦8♣, 8♦, 8♥, 8♠4Two Pair to Full HouseA♦ J♥5♠ A♠ J♦A♥, A♣, J♠, J♣4One Pair to Two Pair or SetJ♣ Q♦J♦ 3♣ 4♠J♥, J♠, Q♠, Q♥, Q♣5No Pair to Pair3♦ 6♣8♥ J♦ A♣3♣, 3♠, 3♥, 6♥, 6♠, 6♦6Two Overcards to Over PairA♣ K♦3♦ 2♥ 8♥A♥, A♠, A♦, K♥, K♣, K♠6Set to Full House or Quads5♥ 5♦5♣ Q♥ 2♠5♠ Q♠, Q♦, Q♣, 2♥, 2♦, 2♣7Open Straight9♥ T♣3♣ 8♦ J♥Any 7, Any Q8FlushA♥ K♥3♥ 5♠ 7♥Any heart (2♥ to Q♥)9Inside Straight & Two OvercardsA♥ K♣Q♠ J♣ 6♦Any Ten, A♠, A♦ A♣, K♠, K♥, K♦10Flush & Inside StraightK♣ J♣A♣ 2♣ T♥Any Q, Any club12Flush and Open StraightJ♥ T♥9♣ Q♥ 3♥Any heart, 8♦, 8♠, 8♣, K♦, K♠, K♣15 outs
Dave