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This hurt a little!

SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
edited September 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Did I overplay it or was I always doomed?

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancejimmynolegSmall blind £0.25£0.25£72.81MJCL1967Big blind £0.50£0.75£15.99 Your hole cardsKK   RemyMartinFold    SlykllistRaise £1.50£2.25£127.55CrazyBen23Raise £5.50£7.75£94.50jimmynolegFold    MJCL1967Call £5.00£12.75£10.99SlykllistRaise £15.00£27.75£112.55CrazyBen23Call £11.00£38.75£83.50MJCL1967All-in £10.99£49.74£0.00Flop  QJ5   SlykllistBet £40.00£89.74£72.55CrazyBen23Call £40.00£129.74£43.50Turn  5   SlykllistAll-in £72.55£202.29£0.00CrazyBen23All-in £43.50£245.79£0.00SlykllistUnmatched bet £29.05£216.74£29.05MJCL1967Show46   SlykllistShowKK   CrazyBen23ShowAA   River  J   CrazyBen23WinTwo Pairs, Aces and Jacks£214.94 £214.94
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  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited September 2011
    Tough one.

    Ben's played it really cute so it's tough to put him on Aces.  I don't know how much you 4bet pre but if you're pretty tight you are really showing immense strength to Ben and letting him put you on a narrow range, especially with the shorty who has to call.  As a result Ben knows you must have something good and him flatting you should send you a message he has a strong holding as well.  The flop is not great for either you or Ben as JJ and QQ just got there.

    I probably slow down on the turn but end up sigh calling his shove as we're pretty much committed.  Probably just a cooler.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited September 2011
    220xbb deep and he gets AA with a cold 4b behind from a guy w/ KK.

    Must beeeeeeeeeee good to be crazy Ben. 

    Turn's a cracking card, "no way out"

    ul
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited September 2011
    i wouldnt bet the flop tbh
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  • jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: This hurt a little!:
    i wouldnt bet the flop tbh
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    for fear of a set?
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  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: This hurt a little!:
    i wouldnt bet the flop tbh
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    I can see an arguement for that particularly as I'm out of position, but what then when he quite rightly bets for value?  I'm not sure I can lay it down so do I just call off my stack?

    I suppose a check call on the flop may enable be to check fold the river when he bets out, but I'm still not sure I can lay down an overpair here.

    In all honesty, I think the widest range I can put him on is AQ, AK, JJ, QQ, AA so with hindsight I should have been able to get away from it and I guess checking the flop would have given me the best chance.
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  • BLACK_MASSBLACK_MASS Member Posts: 401
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: This hurt a little!:
    In Response to Re: This hurt a little! : for fear of a set?
    Posted by jams88
    pot contol i guess but not sure. position is god.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited September 2011
    Prob coz he calls pre with AK/AA/KK/QQ and JJ.....

    So he's gone ahead with a set, had you beat all along, or totally missed and will snap fold.

    I'd still bet though.
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  • BLACK_MASSBLACK_MASS Member Posts: 401
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: This hurt a little!:
    Prob coz he calls pre with AK/AA/KK/QQ and JJ..... So he's gone ahead with a set, had you beat all along, or totally missed and will snap fold. I'd still bet though.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    To find out where you are ?  :)    (obv.)
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited September 2011
    lol yeh..

    To find out that I'm 99% sure I'm behind.

    Then I'll call his shove, just incase I'm not.
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  • BLACK_MASSBLACK_MASS Member Posts: 401
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: This hurt a little!:
    lol yeh.. To find out that I'm 99% sure I'm behind. Then I'll call his shove, just incase I'm not.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    LOL n1 man.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited September 2011

    check flop, and I prob c/f

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