Poker quiz...playing the pockets.

WHOAMI196

Five different  spots that we can all see ourselves in But what is the best line to maximize value , bet sizing or even avoiding danger .... 

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Q1 HOW TO MAXIMIZE VALUE HERE? QQ

We are v a reg who we are beating and doesn't give us any real trouble will call light in poss and 100% with pockets i imagine.

Villain raises $1.5 on the button and gets called by fish(with vpip at 78% 150 hands) on the sb, i see QQ and i make a l three bet to $6.0 and get called by the villain but fish folds.

Its my turn to act and i get a dream flop of 52Q rainbow pot is 12.83 ...

see hand for stacks:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/pokerhand1qq.jpg/

So what do i do?

1. bet $6

2. bet $10

3. bet pot

4. check raise

5. check call

6. ............

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Q2 WHATS MY PLAY ON THE TURN? JJ

Villain unknown.

Villain limps, i make a standard isolation and raise to 2bucks with JJ. It works Flop comes 534  i make a standard c bet villain calls pot now £9.27., villain leads the turn and bets $4.87 . What is my play now....

see hand for stacks:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/hand22jj.jpg/

1. Call

2. Re-raise $14 more/less?

3. Shove

4. Fold

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Q3. HOW TO GET MAX VALUE? SET!

Another unknown.

I open 77 from sb, and villain calls. I hit a set 739 two spades but i lead out $2 villain calls pot now $6.65. The turn brings a three giving me the nuts, action on me on the turn what is the best line here?

see hand for stacks:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/hand77.jpg/

1. Bet $4.5

2. Bet pot

3. check-raise

4. check-call

5. ...........

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Q4. HOW TO PLAY QQ HERE?

Only notes on villain are "will stack off pre with akoff".

Fish limps i isolate to £2.5 something i am doing often, Villain three-bets to $6.50 fish folds, action on me what do i do here...

see hand for stacks:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/hand4qq1.jpg/

1. Call

2. 4-bet $17.50

3. 4-bet $20-$30

3. Shove

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Q5. SAME HAND AS ABOVE BUT WE 4-BET TO 17.50, HE SHOVES!! WHAT NOW?

see hand for stacks:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/pokerhand2qq.jpg/

1. Call

2. Fold

**also what if the oppo was a super nit..

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Lookin forward to ur replies peeps..

debdobs_67

I would bud but im off to bed ) xx

WHOAMI196

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I would bud but im off to bed ) xx
Posted by debdobs_67

its only half one debs  flipping lightweight haha gd nightxx

yb

1. bet $5
2. dunno how the pot gets so big given your raise sizing pre but i'd call the donkbet w/o history
3. bet $5/5.50
4. 4bet to ~ $13
5. obviously call lol

WHOAMI196

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1. bet $5 2. dunno how the pot gets so big given your raise sizing pre but i'd call the donkbet w/o history 3. bet $5/5.50 4. 4bet to ~ $13 5. obviously call lol
Posted by yb

interesting lol nah made a mistake on Q2 is now fixed..

Lambert180

I'll give my answers once I've finished reading them but first thought is... Question 1, if you raise $8 and get a caller, how is the pot $12??

Lambert180

1. Bet $6
2. Call
3. bet $4.50, probably THE best possible card if he was on a flush draw. You havent got the nuts, 33 and 99 beat you lol but I'm being picky
4. 3bet to around $20, obviously calling a shove.
5. Oh already answered above, call. You said he can stack off with AKoff. If he was a super nit, I guess there's arguement for a fold, if you know that he definitely only 5bet shoves with AA/KK but that would have to be a good read.

DISCLAIMER: I'm rubbish so don't take my word for it on any of the above suggestions...

WHOAMI196

In Response to Re: Poker quiz...playing the pockets.:

I'll give my answers once I've finished reading them but first thought is... Question 1, if you raise $8 and get a caller, how is the pot $12??
Posted by Lambert180

nice spot, i had to go back and fourth on the hh, and had a few drinks last night..excuses,excuses lol il fix

LOL_RAISE

what yb said..if hes a nit then dont 4bet

grantorino

1 bet 8

2 call

3 bet 5

4 4bet to 14 obv call it off

5. lol, dont 4b/f QQ. Also your 4bet is huge. If oppo is supernit dont 4bet QQ

WHOAMI196

Thanks for those who replied, This was influenced by "poker player magazine" but they seem to do it better. Il try and get tougher and more interesting spots nxt time for the likes of lol raise and yb..as the hands where picked on a whim really whithought real thought.

FWIW these were my line an reasons why.

1. Check call, flopped the nuts on a very dry board, by checking im allowing my oppo which has a wide range to bluff or catch up. Also it looks like a failed squeeze attempt, or ak, aj, jj ,1010>. If my oppo holds a pocket or an unlikely q, he will think he is good here. A c bet nearly allways gets through, but will only get called by hand that i can get value from later streets so im not losing value by doing this. Got him to shove the river with air..result!

2. Call. Its not a great board for an over pair, calling here controls the pot size and allowes the villain to bluff his missed draws on the river or i can value bet if he checks.

3. check call theres merit in doing this v unknown, for me to fire again it just looks so strong, if he hasnt hit the flush i want him to rep it, again im not losing vaslue if has the flush by checking being 100bb deep all the money will go in if he has it. but im allowing him to bluff, he does bet the turn, and river but to insta fold to my shove after putting half his stack in voluntarily.

4.4bet -17.5 I want to make a chunky three bet here because if he has ak i do not want him to just call i want this in pre flop as i kno from past he is happy to get it in with ak.

5. Call. an ovbious one. oppo shows jj result. and if villain was a nit i would not 4 bet either. 

i will post summing like this again, but trickier spots and get a debate going i hope or more interest at least.

Now f u all im off out, gonna get hammered on my way there already hehe and if i dont pull, no doubt il be playing drunk poker again

grantorino

1. your reads are misleading if you checked to this guy and he bluffed 3 streets. I like betting as pps call and you get floated or bluff raised a lot. Disagree that a cbet nearly always gets thru unless villain is bad. bet flop, check turn if called would be my preferred line. Also surely villain expects you to cbet your squeezes etc?

3. you miss value from some hands when 4th spade comes on river and also from Asx sometimes when river blanks. Depends on villain and dynamic but I prefer betting v unknown

4 Cant see a reason to 4bet so big. Villain unlikely to flat, it tells him you are not folding when you bet so big

WHOAMI196

1. Villain may put me on a legit hand here and just looking to hit, as i said he is noted for calling light this includes not just small pocket pairs, 67s, 89s, 10js, etc. he will likely fold a lot to a c-bet because of his range esp if i bet 8 like you said. It doesnt give him any room to re-raise bluff either, to float a board like this takes some doing as its too dry as theres never a card that can come on the turn that he can rep he HAS to believe that i have nothing. I change my play often, i would c-bet  often here about 6 quid but hey ho,.

2. i still feel betting again looks just too strong as we would check most of our hands for pot control with that turn. It would also make him feel more confident with a marginal hand that he may have. i may lose value from Asx, but feel theres a much wider range that i can gain value from.

3. ie exactly i do not want him to flat, and i am rarely 4 bet folding regardless of bet size and my oppo will kno that.

grantorino

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1. Villain may put me on a legit hand here and just looking to hit, as i said he is noted for calling light this includes not just small pocket pairs, 67s, 89s, 10js, etc. he will likely fold a lot to a c-bet because of his range esp if i bet 8 like you said. It doesnt give him any room to re-raise bluff either, to float a board like this takes some doing as its too dry as theres never a card that can come on the turn that he can rep he HAS to believe that i have nothing. I change my play often, i would c-bet  often here about 6 quid but hey ho,. 2. i still feel betting again looks just too strong as we would check most of our hands for pot control with that turn. It would also make him feel more confident with a marginal hand that he may have. i may lose value from Asx, but feel theres a much wider range that i can gain value from. 3. ie exactly i do not want him to flat, and i am rarely 4 bet folding regardless of bet size and my oppo will kno that.
Posted by WHOAMI196

Well the first one, I suppose if he plays that badly in 3bet pots that he calls wide and plays fit or fold post if we cbet its ok. Still think betting might be best way to get money over line oop though (dont mind making it 6 btw), as chances of missing a street are fairly high if we start c/c

Hand 3 as I said I could go either way, but theres a lot of money to go in so in the absence of reads I prob bet cos people like to call.
 
The QQ hand I 4bet smaller because he is still unlikely to flat anyway and it gives him a chance to bluff shove. I really cant see any reason to 4bet as big as you did, if you are making it that big just shove imo