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Can you fold QQ pre at NL4

jugglegeekjugglegeek Member Posts: 623
edited September 2011 in The Poker Clinic
I seriously contemplated folding here. Generally people who have a full buy-in don't 3-bet all in without aces or kings but I just couldn't bring myself to do it. Are players doing this with AK and Jack often enough to make it ok to call? If the player has <£3 then I insta-call but a full stack sugests a player who at least understands the value of their hand pre-flop (if not the concept of lost value)
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
walesboy Small blind   £0.02 £0.02 £2.81
X Big blind   £0.04 £0.06 £4.44
LFCSPICER Big blind   £0.04 £0.10 £1.56
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • Q
     
intrigue07 Fold        
jugglegeek Raise   £0.24 £0.34 £3.76
LFCSPICER Fold        
Rubbernix Fold        
walesboy Fold        
X All-in   £4.44 £4.78 £0.00
jugglegeek All-in   £3.76 £8.54 £0.00
X
 Unmatched bet   £0.48 £8.06 £0.48
X Show
  • K
  • K
     
jugglegeek Show
  • Q
  • Q
     

           

           

           
           
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited September 2011
    You made good open raise and he's just shoved all in, he could have ANYTHING here LOTS of pairs and random Ax's. If he had 3bet properly it would be a little more worrying but a 3bet shove nah snap call and make note I'm afraid.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited September 2011
    I call here too UL and make a note
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited September 2011
    snap call make a note and river a set .
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited September 2011
    call note - move on - only a fool makes the same mistake twice )
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  • walesboywalesboy Member Posts: 993
    edited September 2011
    i would have called. his range was such that you could have easily been dominating him.
    was very unlucky
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited September 2011
    You know tbh even if I made a note I would probably still call if he did it again lol
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited September 2011
    You probably can, but I wouldn't be doing so here.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Can you fold QQ pre at NL4:
    You probably can, but I wouldn't be doing so here.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    Noted for Saturday's challenge :)

    3/bet shove on DOHHHHHH

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Can you fold QQ pre at NL4:
    In Response to Re: Can you fold QQ pre at NL4 : Noted for Saturday's challenge :) 3/bet shove on DOHHHHHH
    Posted by rancid
    haha that will be interesting mate, as at like midnightish, stacks are going to be like 1,000 xbb's deep......

    Easy fold ;)

    I'n the first hour I'll be snapping with 22+ 32s+ and 56o+ though.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Can you fold QQ pre at NL4:
    In Response to Re: Can you fold QQ pre at NL4 : haha that will be interesting mate, as at like midnightish, stacks are going to be like 1,000 xbb's deep...... Easy fold ;) I'n the first hour I'll be snapping with 22+ 32s+ and 56o+ though.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    Well the big stacks are going to have to clash in order to win.

    But I finks for NL4 Regs it may be a good idea to nit and take a few quid.

    There will be loads of good spots to get ya stack in ahead )

    I have not quite decided how to play this one :D

    If I run good then I may bail out at  £30 :S

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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited September 2011
    Yeah I think you gotta call here. You said generally people with a full buy-in don't 3bet shove... well I'd say, generally players who know what they're doing don't 3bet all in with KK/AA after one 6x raise. He's losing SO much value you cos there are so few hands you'll call with so now you know he's an idiot.
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited September 2011
    Hey this competition on 1st October at 2p/4p. I thought it was only on Omaha but am I wrong, does it include Hold 'em as well?
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited September 2011
    Yep all formats. :)
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited September 2011
    Argh!! I just realised, I don't think I'll be able to play Saturday night, but I'll have to see. You really think it'll get to 1000BBs deep Doh??
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