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Raise river or not

rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
edited October 2011 in The Poker Clinic
oppo is decent - not a fish - 
raising river, me not like - but whats a man to do - anyone folding to the shove - 
setanta618 Small blind   £0.02 £0.02 £1.63
maxall Big blind   £0.04 £0.06 £5.91
  Your hole cards
  • 5
  • 5
     
rancid Call   £0.04 £0.10 £15.38
7days Fold        
setanta618 Call   £0.02 £0.12 £1.61
maxall Check        
Flop
   
  • 7
  • 7
  • 8
     
setanta618 Bet   £0.09 £0.21 £1.52
maxall Call   £0.09 £0.30 £5.82
rancid Call   £0.09 £0.39 £15.29
Turn
   
  • 3
     
setanta618 Bet   £0.20 £0.59 £1.32
maxall Call   £0.20 £0.79 £5.62
rancid Call   £0.20 £0.99 £15.09
River
   
  • 5
     
setanta618 Check        
maxall Bet   £0.99 £1.98 £4.63
rancid Raise   £2.48 £4.46 £12.61
setanta618 Fold        
maxall All-in   £4.63 £9.09 £0.00
rancid Call   £3.14 £12.23 £9.47
maxall Show
  • 3
  • 7
     
rancid Show
  • 5
  • 5
     
maxall Win Full House, 7s and 3s £11.31   £11.31

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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited September 2011
    must have a hand of is not eligible for entry
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re:.:
    must have a hand of is not eligible for entry
    Posted by The_Don90
    try again :D
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  • HYPETINGHYPETING Member Posts: 253
    edited September 2011
    This hand is crazy.

    Raise to minimum of 20p pre.

    Your letting junk hands like 7 3 get in for cheap and letting them outdraw you.

    The way the hand is played you have to raise river.

    By the looks of it your just calling flop, turn and river to hit a 5.

    Play more ABC at NL4.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited September 2011
    raise pre

    fold flop

    fold turn

    I like the river though!
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited September 2011
    Defo raise pre, can't fathom why you wouldn't 4 handed, but just like 12p to build pot a little if you hit set.

    Flop snap fold.

    Same turn.

    River, nice two outer but kinda serves you right after playing first 3 streets so badly.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Raise river or not:

    Defo raise pre, can't fathom why you wouldn't 4 handed, but just like 12p to build pot a little if you hit set.
    yeah UTG low prs - sometimes flat, sometimes raise - both are fine
    Flop snap fold.
    Some draws here and underpairs so finks i can c/c one street
    Same turn.
    shoulda folded or bluff raised here tbh, just calling to hit 5 - this is bad )
    River, nice two outer but kinda serves you right after playing first 3 streets so badly.
    lol, I am raising here for value v 7's / flush/straight - but when he shoves on me I can fold here can't I
    No way he doing this with anything less than a FH. Obviously I called because I am a station, plus I was hoping A7 diamonds would be lovely )
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited September 2011
    On flop one player bets and another calls I'd imagine at least one has you beat here.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited September 2011
    In Response to Re: Raise river or not:
    On flop one player bets and another calls I'd imagine at least one has you beat here.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    I am just not that tight to fold on flop I guess )
    Turn really told me I was beat so either rep a 7 or fold ) so bad to call
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  • silentbobsilentbob Member Posts: 2,137
    edited September 2011
    TBH at this level I don't mind the limp pre with small PP. Get in cheap but when you miss on the flop you have to let go. 

    You've a bet & a call in front of you on the flop & I can guarantee 100% that even if one of them is bluffing the other has AT LEAST an 8 in his hand which means you're way behind. I don't think you can float to try & take it away at this level (I presume that was your plan?), even more so if you rate your oppo as a decent player.
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  • jugglegeekjugglegeek Member Posts: 623
    edited October 2011
    Open raise to 16p pre flop (to build pot if you hit a set). Most fish will call a 16p raise with the same cards that they will limp in with and many fish will call from the big blind with ATC. If he is a reg he folds 73o. When you don't hit on the flop snap fold to any bet (even a 4p bet).

    Pocket pairs below tens are set mines at NL4. If you hit your set then you can make money, if you miss the flop you make an easy - and cheap - fold.

    As played you have to call the all in on the river, you have a full house. You could easy be up against a flush or trips.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: Raise river or not:
    In Response to Re: Raise river or not : I am just not that tight to fold on flop I guess ) Turn really told me I was beat so either rep a 7 or fold ) so bad to call
    Posted by rancid
    The problem with calling flop is even if we are ahead we are going to have to fold too often on later streets readless
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: Raise river or not:
    In Response to Re: Raise river or not : The problem with calling flop is even if we are ahead we are going to have to fold too often on later streets readless
    Posted by grantorino
    True - i am so stubborn sometimes

    tbh though I am using c/c a lot latley and it's working...
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: Raise river or not:
    In Response to Re: Raise river or not : True - i am so stubborn sometimes tbh though I am using c/c a lot latley and it's working...
    Posted by rancid
    Maybe, but this isnt the spot for it 3way in a limped pot with 55
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