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Bet/fold or Check/fold?

Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
edited October 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Player multitables but only seen them just today so can't be sure how they play. Also is cbet too small ?
genpatton Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £10.77
Dudeskin8 Big blind   £0.10 £0.15 £9.90
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • A
     
clegger Fold        
bazb Fold        
x Raise   £0.30 £0.45 £10.46
genpatton Fold        
Dudeskin8 Raise   £0.90 £1.35 £9.00
x Call   £0.70 £2.05 £9.76
Flop
   
  • 3
  • 4
  • 7
     
Dudeskin8 Bet   £1.20 £3.25 £7.80
x Call   £1.20 £4.45 £8.56
Turn
   
  • Q
     
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  • Mr_MiyagiMr_Miyagi Member Posts: 2,031
    edited October 2011
    I don't think you should waste anymore money on it unless you think that he would ever believe you have a Q and he will fold.

    I wouldn't even bother betting on the flop 347 rainbow what are you trying to achieve with that?
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited October 2011
    double barrels are fun

    but this looks like a c/f prob
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  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited October 2011
    if i'm betting that flop i'm definitely going to double barrel that turn, its probably the best card to see apart from an ace or king.
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196 Member Posts: 1,170
    edited October 2011
    i totally agree with yb, you dont have to bet big either ..£2-£3 quid

    I c bet nearly 100% of the time v 1 oppo and normally make it half to 2/3 pot if a bit wet so ur sizing is something that i would bet.. if that's any consolation lol
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited October 2011
    What hands do you think he will fold if you barrell the turn? 
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  • rob12345rob12345 Member Posts: 341
    edited October 2011
    hand like 55s 66s maybe 88s 99s all the hand that floted u on the flop and hand like yours ace hi.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited October 2011
    Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii an AK thread from the dude ;))

    Seriously though ya bet the flop so ya gotta bet the turn
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: Bet/fold or Check/fold?:
    Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii an AK thread from the dude ;)) Seriously though ya bet the flop so ya gotta bet the turn
    Posted by debdobs_67
    Why?

    What r we trying to achieve, using the range of hands he might be holding (and how he might react to a turn bet with these hands) to justify your thoughts?


    Also what's our plan on the river?

    *Test*
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited October 2011
    c/f flop or be prepared to fire a barrell on nearly all turns, unless villain is known to be weaktight. I'm definitely betting a queen if I bet flop
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited October 2011
    Reason for betting flop is if he's calling 3bet pre with random overscards less than AK than he surely folds them to cbet on flop but if I check he bets anything and I have to fold which seems really defeatist, of course he can call 3bet pre with pairs like 99/100 which call flop so that's where it goes wrong.

    So in general what sort of flops are good to cbet, minimum of J high? and also IP would a cbet be ok here ?
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: Bet/fold or Check/fold?:
    Reason for betting flop is if he's calling 3bet pre with random overscards less than AK than he surely folds them to cbet on flop but if I check he bets anything and I have to fold which seems really defeatist, of course he can call 3bet pre with pairs like 99/100 which call flop so that's where it goes wrong. So in general what sort of flops are good to cbet, minimum of J high? and also IP would a cbet be ok here ?
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    "1 from the top, and 2 from the the bottom please Carol"
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: Bet/fold or Check/fold?:
    In Response to Re: Bet/fold or Check/fold? : Why? What r we trying to achieve, using the range of hands he might be holding (and how he might react to a turn bet with these hands) to justify your thoughts? Also what's our plan on the river? *Test*
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Why ?? cos if we fire 1 barrell we gotta be prepared to fire again , if not then surely we should only check flop , IF they call again it obv depends on the river card
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: Bet/fold or Check/fold?:
    In Response to Re: Bet/fold or Check/fold? : Why ?? cos if we fire 1 barrell we gotta be prepared to fire again , if not then surely we should only check flop , IF they call again it obv depends on the river card
    Posted by debdobs_67
    You didn't mention his hands/range once in your explanation tho.

    What r we looking to fold out?
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited October 2011
    In English please Dohhh ?
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: Bet/fold or Check/fold?:
    In Response to Re: Bet/fold or Check/fold? : You didn't mention his hands/range once in your explanation tho. What r we looking to fold out?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Fair point about betting, but I'm interested in what you think is a better line and why.
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