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Wrong move me thinks!

cleaverjimcleaverjim Member Posts: 1,070
edited October 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Hand History #421368423 (18:56 04/10/2011)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancecd1967Small blind £0.04£0.04£7.79wilson1874Big blind £0.08£0.12£4.48 Your hole cards9J   FREELANCERRaise £0.16£0.28£7.21xCarolinexFold    cleaverjimCall £0.16£0.44£11.23scottyvid1Fold    cd1967Fold    wilson1874Call £0.08£0.52£4.40Flop  103Q   wilson1874Check    FREELANCERBet £0.24£0.76£6.97cleaverjimCall £0.24£1.00£10.99wilson1874Fold    Turn  K   FREELANCERBet £0.50£1.50£6.47cleaverjimRaise £1.00£2.50£9.99FREELANCERCall £0.50£3.00£5.97River  10   FREELANCERAll-in £5.97£8.97£0.00cleaverjimFold    FREELANCERMuck    FREELANCERWin £2.77 £2.77FREELANCERReturn £5.97£0.23£8.74

Comments

  • cleaverjimcleaverjim Member Posts: 1,070
    edited October 2011
    I think i made the wrong fold here,Tbh my bank-roll is good enough to call but im losing to any flush or full house or higher st8 but i think on these levels i maybe should of called!Any thoughts on this guys? + the player was a rock in the 15mins he was on the table
  • huuuuumehuuuuume Member Posts: 569
    edited October 2011

    your bankroll should have no impact on whether you make the call or not.

    also, how does someone manage to become a rock in 15 minutes?

    the min raise on the turn is terrible and gives you no chance to define opponents hand.  you just put yourself in a terrible spot and miss loads of value

    at these limits i'd be surprised if you're winning on the river

  • jugglegeekjugglegeek Member Posts: 623
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: Wrong move me thinks!:
    I think i made the wrong fold here,Tbh my bank-roll is good enough to call but im losing to any flush or full house or higher st8 but i think on these levels i maybe should of called!Any thoughts on this guys? + the player was a rock in the 15mins he was on the table
    Posted by cleaverjim
    Bet turn bigger. At least £1.50. Also I think there is an argument for donking the flop here. If the flush gets there or the turn bricks then you can shut down. But I doubt he's raising a donk bet on this flop
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited October 2011
    Fold preflop.

    Raise turn MUCH bigger, at least £1.70, minraise is terrible.

    River not sure but it would make it easier if you raised more on turn, still probably call though.
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited October 2011
    call pre is loose 
    call on the flop is fine
    you hit turn card - raise more you really want to get it in here

    sigh call river because you can then see how badly you played the turn
  • cleaverjimcleaverjim Member Posts: 1,070
    edited October 2011
    MIN RAISE TERRIBLE!! tbh on the finality of it yeah, but if river is 3,4,5 etc the min raise is good imo ,Yes i hit st8 on turn but was hoping for no paired brd and didnt want to get him off pot so i think until river i played it ok for a beginner!!
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited October 2011
    When you minraise turn you're giving him 5-1 to pair the board which is great odds and he wins longterm, when you raise more and he calls and hits you win longterm.
  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited October 2011
    If ya think oppo will pay for a draw OR has a hand to stay in the pot you HAVE to get far more in on the turn
  • MkeItRainMkeItRain Member Posts: 46
    edited October 2011
    sorry to say but the whole hand is a bit of a disaster.

    as everyone else has said

    Fold Pre, it's not "too loose" it's just a bad call. Raise way bigger on the turn, once he's bet there is £1.50 in the pot, and he has £6.47 back, so we wanna raise enough so we can jam the river after he calls - make it £2.75 then these is £6.50 in the pot and he has £4.22 back, so we can jam/call the river easiy.
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