Should i raise or call here?

DrSharp

Villains notes say 'tight, usually raises with 2xbroadway cards, c-bets'.

Should i always raise the flop for protection. He could very easily have the king here. Its well in his range. If i raise, what am i raising to?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
NorthernJ	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£2.91
ivegotit	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£15.53
	Your hole cards	6 6
x	Raise		£0.40	£0.52	£13.36
DrSharp	Call		£0.40	£0.92	£10.10
NorthernJ	Fold
ivegotit	Fold
Flop
		K 6 2
x	Bet		£0.92	£1.84	£12.44
DrSharp	???

GREGHOGG

If he is only going to call your raise with the King and better there is not much point raising tbh as you are folding out his bluffs.

If you think he might put you on a fd, and call with things like Ax, qq, jj etc, then yes, raise! I am generally a fan of raising this flop as it suits my style, but it depends how he views you and how fishy he is.

As he c-bets I think a standard line is probably best here and to call the flop with a view to betting/raising the turn.

DOHHHHHHH

Raise. 

cleaverjim

raise j/10 sooted etc is in his range ,My motto is wen in front take it down..

whbonny

call and let him bet out again on turn then raise

Dudeskin8

100% raise for me, you have the nuts (forget KK lol) so want to build the pot BIG asap and a raise here does that, also he has POT BET that is VERY strong imo (also after 5x raising pre, which is BIG at NL8) and means he probably ain't folding very often which is great.

DrSharp

In Response to Re: Should i raise or call here?:

100% raise for me, you have the nuts (forget KK lol) so want to build the pot BIG asap and a raise here does that, also he has POT BET that is VERY strong imo (also after 5x raising pre, which is BIG at NL8) and means he probably ain't folding very often which is great.
Posted by Dudeskin8

Thats what i thought pretty much exactly mate. How much you making it?

Dudeskin8

Bout £2.50-3.00 should do.

DOHHHHHHH

It's a good situation to raise as we have a big hand, and we want a big pot.

It's a good board to raise as a bluff.

It's a good board to raise as a semi-bluff.

It's a good board to raise because there are turn cards that will kill the action.

It's a good time to raise as we are 150xbb deep at the start of the hand.

It's a good idea to raise as it's the opposite of what Greghogg would do. 

grantorino

how often he barrells air and how lightly he continues to raises are important info here

My default is to raise flop, and I would need a good reason to call rather than raise flop

rancid

In Response to Re: Should i raise or call here?:

Raise. 
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

+1 no reason to flat
100% value spot

GREGHOGG

In Response to Re: Should i raise or call here?:

It's a good situation to raise as we have a big hand, and we want a big pot. It's a good board to raise as a bluff. It's a good board to raise as a semi-bluff. It's a good board to raise because there are turn cards that will kill the action. It's a good time to raise as we are 150xbb deep at the start of the hand. It's a good idea to raise as it's the opposite of what Greghogg would do. 
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

wrong, if you read my post properly, you would see that I personally raise it playing as greghogg, because this is my style. A flat would look wrong for me on this board.

I was questioning the villain and the OP's images because sometimes flatting might be better.... like if the villain double barrels lots

huuuuume

do you ever reraise this board with air?

i dont get the impression anyone at these stakes is reraising with air here

flat

DrSharp

Here's the rest of the hand. My re-raise was too big. Should it basically be 3x what he bet?

I now know after playing on after this hand that my opponent must have folded a big hand as his c-bets didnt seem to be ever a pot size bet. I think he could have folded a pair of kings here, maybe K,J or something along those lines. Anyway, thanks for the input, i'll leave DOHHHHHHH and GREGHOGG to argue this out..................

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
NorthernJ	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£2.91
ivegotit	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£15.53
	Your hole cards	6 6
x	Raise		£0.40	£0.52	£13.36
DrSharp	Call		£0.40	£0.92	£10.10
NorthernJ	Fold
ivegotit	Fold
Flop
		K 6 2
x	Bet		£0.92	£1.84	£12.44
DrSharp	Raise		£3.36	£5.20	£6.74
x	Fold
DrSharp	Muck
DrSharp	Win		£2.55		£9.29
DrSharp	Return		£2.44

DrSharp

In Response to Re: Should i raise or call here?:

do you ever reraise this board with air? i dont get the impression anyone at these stakes is reraising with air here flat
Posted by huuuuume

Yes, well sort of.......................

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
DrSharp	Small blind		£0.04	£0.04	£11.61
x	Big blind		£0.08	£0.12	£3.00
z	Big blind		£0.08	£0.20	£3.12
	Your hole cards	A Q
y	Raise		£0.16	£0.36	£15.37
z	Call		£0.08	£0.44	£3.04
DrSharp	Call		£0.12	£0.56	£11.49
x	Call		£0.08	£0.64	£2.92
Flop
		J 3 5
DrSharp	Check
x	Check
y	Bet		£0.50	£1.14	£14.87
z	Fold
DrSharp	Raise		£1.44	£2.58	£10.05
x	Fold
y	Fold
DrSharp	Muck
DrSharp	Win		£1.51		£11.56
DrSharp	Return		£0.94

But i dont know if they know that i do this sometimes.

Dudeskin8

That's a pretty crazy play at NL8, I assume you have some solid reads ?

DOHHHHHHH

In Response to Re: Should i raise or call here?:

In Response to Re: Should i raise or call here? : wrong, if you read my post properly, you would see that I personally raise it playing as greghogg, because this is my style. A flat would look wrong for me on this board. I was questioning the villain and the OP's images because sometimes flatting might be better.... like if the villain double barrels lots
Posted by GREGHOGG

Flat then O.P

MkeItRain

if the King of spades in on the flop its defo a better spot to flat.

no1 bluffs this board, when pople raise air it's always semib-bluffs, and you have way less semi-bluffs if you're 150bb's deep cos most of your FD's will flat, only the NFD/Ks*s and (maybe)34/35/45 spades will raise here this deep imo.

100bigs defo raise, 150 might lean to a flat imo

grantorino

I think when deciding to call or raise flop the fact many people continue lighter to flop raises than turn raises is also a factor

Also we are something like 130BB deep not 150 and Dr sharp yes that raise is too big

TommyD

Raising to 2.50 total on that board with those reads.  Pretty much regardless of what my cards are.