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To shove or not to shove?

PystermanPysterman Member Posts: 187
edited October 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Out of position in an MTT, down to 16-17 big blinds, dealt AK.

Big blind is "away" so will fold. Limper has only recently been moved to the table.

Should I just shove this?
Pysterman Small blind  50.00 50.00 1640.00
R_IVERS_10 Big blind  100.00 150.00 975.00
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • A
     
MHC Fold     
jimyenglan Fold     
rod215 Call  100.00 250.00 2108.75
TRIP5 Fold     
Pysterman
If I just raise and get called, what then if I miss the flop? Can I give this up?

If I plan to raise and then c-bet if I miss the flop then surely I should just shove now.
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  • ameliorateameliorate Member Posts: 33
    edited October 2011
    Hi,

    I would just shove, raising is tricky especially if you miss the flop, and you are most likely to get called by a hand you either dominate or are racing with.

    Its not a nice spot to be in but checking/folding here is terrible IMO.

    If i have less than 20BB and pick up a premium hand like this I just shove. Way too many players call with worse
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited October 2011
    its a shove simplez
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited October 2011
    I prob shove, I dont mind raising and getting it in on any flop either
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited October 2011
    Snap shove, would have prefered a raise in front but yh just shove.
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  • PystermanPysterman Member Posts: 187
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: To shove or not to shove?:
    I dont mind raising and getting it in on any flop either
    Posted by grantorino

    This is the way I actually played it.

    I raised to 400, got called with 78 suited.

    Flop comes 10 6 9.

    I shove.

    Adios.

    Looking back, I questioned whether the shove pre would have been better than the stop and go (hence the thread). In this case he probably would have folded, buy maybe not.

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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited October 2011
    AK SB 17 BB

    Grab your balls and shove it
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  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: To shove or not to shove?:
    Hi, I would just shove, raising is tricky especially if you miss the flop, and you are most likely to get called by a hand you either dominate or are racing with. Its not a nice spot to be in but checking/folding here is terrible IMO. If i have less than 20BB and pick up a premium hand like this I just shove. Way too many players call with worse
    Posted by ameliorate
    Its a great spot. Ship it!
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