Another MTT spot, flush draw facing 2xshoves!

DrSharp

Ok. This isnt really a play that requires too many reads (standard wasnt too clever to be honest) but in a cash game i am all over this but this is for my tourney life, do i call?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
DEMONDAMON	Small blind		15.00	15.00	1845.00
toco	Big blind		30.00	45.00	3135.00
	Your hole cards	A J
kayloz	Call		30.00	75.00	1690.00
Mylena	Call		30.00	105.00	1597.50
Bear_Proof	Fold
DrSharp	Call		30.00	135.00	2097.50
DEMONDAMON	Call		15.00	150.00	1830.00
toco	Check
Flop
		6 7 Q
DEMONDAMON	All-in		1830.00	1980.00	0.00
toco	Fold
kayloz	All-in		1690.00	3670.00	0.00
Mylena	Fold
DrSharp	???

DOHHHHHHH

Looks early enough to gamble, not much time invested if u miss and bust. 

Ace could be live. 

I calllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

Not 4got about the PM, will do it today. R u still playing em?

Glenelg

In Response to Re: Another MTT spot, flush draw facing 2xshoves!:

Looks early enough to fold, not much chips invested .
 I calllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

FYP  I give this up.

DrSharp

In Response to Re: Another MTT spot, flush draw facing 2xshoves!:

Looks early enough to gamble, not much time invested if u miss and bust.  Ace could be live.  I calllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Not 4got about the PM, will do it today. R u still playing em?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Dont play alot of them and it really is micro stuff at the moment and i seem to be about break even. However, its so much fun i cant help myself. Thats why i wanted a few wise words from your good self, as i think i make too many errors short stacked as i am use to playing with 100xbb at cash. Thanks mate.

As for the hand, i have the right odds to call i am pretty sure and as you say, the ace probably gives me extra outs. I treble up if i hit and then can become a major pain in the bottom.

DrSharp

In Response to Re: Another MTT spot, flush draw facing 2xshoves!:

In Response to Re: Another MTT spot, flush draw facing 2xshoves! : FYP  I give this up.
Posted by Glenelg

Thanks pad, i dont think i can really do too much wrong here in this spot. Cash, its an easy call imo, MTT, its for my tourney life. I am a tourney donk and am trying to sort my game out as i think i gamble too much and thats why i crash and burn too often.

TommyD

Tough to do but you've got great odds to triple up (not great but ok odds to triple up if there's a set out there).  Yes you can't win the MTT yet but you can give yourself a huge foundation bearing in mind you could be on what the average stack will be with  just over 1/3 of the field left.  I would call but then again I love to gamble/play for the win (delete as appropriate).

NColley

if its a BH I call.

rancid

gamble, nice price and like what's said before it's only early

DrSharp

Yeah, i gambled and lost the hand. Just wondered if it was spewy in MTT's. Cheers guys!

grantorino

raise pre

postflop is pretty close either way, I prob gamble
 

Glenelg

In Response to Re: Another MTT spot, flush draw facing 2xshoves!:

raise pre postflop is pretty close either way, I prob gamble  
Posted by grantorino

COuld you post the complete hand Dr? be interesting to see what others had.

DrSharp

Sure Pad!

Here it is.....

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
DEMONDAMON	Small blind		15.00	15.00	1845.00
toco	Big blind		30.00	45.00	3135.00
	Your hole cards	A J
kayloz	Call		30.00	75.00	1690.00
Mylena	Call		30.00	105.00	1597.50
Bear_Proof	Fold
DrSharp	Call		30.00	135.00	2097.50
DEMONDAMON	Call		15.00	150.00	1830.00
toco	Check
Flop
		6 7 Q
DEMONDAMON	All-in		1830.00	1980.00	0.00
toco	Fold
kayloz	All-in		1690.00	3670.00	0.00
Mylena	Fold
DrSharp	Call		1830.00	5500.00	267.50
DEMONDAMON	Show	3 Q
kayloz	Show	A K
DrSharp	Show	A J
Turn
		9
River
		4
DEMONDAMON	Win	Pair of Queens	5500.00

pretty weird eh? Told ya the standard was erm questionable. lol

Poker_Fail

In Response to Re: Another MTT spot, flush draw facing 2xshoves!:

Tough to do but you've got great odds to triple up (not great but ok odds to triple up if there's a set out there).  Yes you can't win the MTT yet but you can give yourself a huge foundation bearing in mind you could be on what the average stack will be with  just over 1/3 of the field left.  I would call but then again I love to gamble/play for the win (delete as appropriate).
Posted by TommyD

OK, you could be on what the average stack will be with  just over 3 of the field left

debdobs_67

I defo make these calls as a triple up early is a great foundation to build on , if i lose as others have said not much time invested so load another , then rinse and repeat until im busto )

Batkin88

all it takes is one player to have the set and ur odds arent quite so good. If you choose to play pre flop passivly which you and the AK guy did you should keep that mindset for hand. If either of you had raised pre Q3 is gone. If you raise you will prob find he has limped utg to get the raise to come back over the top then you can fold knowing your behind. Limping with these hands is bad especially early in the tournament when players want to play any 2 as they feel its cheap enough charge them and build your stack that way