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TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME

bigflop1bigflop1 Member Posts: 1,034
edited October 2011 in Poker Chat
LAST SUNDAY I PLAYED CASH IN MY LOCAL CASINO FOR THE FIRST TIME (PLAY MTTS THERE EVERY WEEK) BUT HAVE THE FOLLOWING QUESTION :-

AFTER BUSTING THE NIGHTLY TOURNEY QUITE EARLY I DECIDED TO TRY MY LUCK AT THE CASH GAME WHICH WAS GOING ON.. I SAT DOWN WITH £100 @ 1/1... I HAD A FEW BIG HANDS AND MY £100 WAS SUDDENLY OVER £700. I KNEW ALL THE GUYS AT THE TABLE AS I PLAY MTTS THERE MOST NIGHTS, EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT I DIDNT KNOW THE RULES BUT QUESTIONED IF I COULD TAKE THE MONEY OFF THE TABLE AND LEAVE THE £100 I STARTED WITH..

THEY SAID NO ??? I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DO NOT WANT THEIR MONEY TAKEN OFF THE TABLE, BUT SURELY ME STAYING WITH £100 IS BETTER THAN TAKING IT ALL??

I DIDNT WANT TO UPSET ANYONE BY LEAVING STRAIGHT AWAY SO I SAT TIGHT FOR ABOUT AN HOUR THEN GAVE THE TABLE 10 HANDS NOTICE OF ME GOING TO LEAVE!!

THE ONLY WAY I COULD HAVE REDUCED MY STACK WAS IF I STOOD WITH ALL MY MONEY.. WAITED HALF HOUR THEN I COULD SIT BACK DOWN WITH £100 AGAIN..

MY QUESTION IS :- WHY WOULD THEY PREFER TO PLAY WITH AN EMPTY SEAT FOR HALF HOUR RATHER THAN ME TAKE SOME MONEY BUT LEAVE £100 ON THE TABLE (THERE WAS NOONE WAITING FOR MY SEAT)
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  • JockBMWJockBMW Member Posts: 2,653
    edited October 2011
    I have to say I disagree with you on this one Bigflop.  The money you win at the table stays at the table.  

    "Going South" has always been a big No No in live cash games.  Watch how Freddy Deeb reacts when he is accused of doing it 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARcSJ_ApFEo

    30 minutes to come back is pretty relaxed as well.  it's 2 hours in my casino 
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  • bigflop1bigflop1 Member Posts: 1,034
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME:
    I have to say I disagree with you on this one Bigflop.  The money you win at the table stays at the table.   "Going South" has always been a big No No in live cash games 30 minutes to come back is pretty relaxed as well.  it's 2 hours in my casino 
    Posted by JockBMW
    I AM NEW TO LIVE CASH TBH JOCK, DONT WANT AN ARGUMENT JUST WANT TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND WHY??

    I DONT GET WHY THE TABLE WOULD PREFER ME TO TAKE ALL THE MONEY OFF THE TABLE TO TAKING JUST SOME?? I DONT UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC BEHIND IT?? THEY WOULD PREFER AN EMPTY SEAT TO MY £100???
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  • bigflop1bigflop1 Member Posts: 1,034
    edited October 2011
    WHEN LOOKING BACK I DID LOL AT MY INEXPERIENCE.. I ORDERED A DRINK.. WHEN IT CAME I TRIED PAYING WITH A £5 CHIP OUT OF MY STACK AT THE TABLE.. LUCKILY PLAYING WITH FRIENDS WHO JUST LAUGHED AT ME!!
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited October 2011
    pretty standrad. infact even here on sky its a 30 min limit.
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  • bigflop1bigflop1 Member Posts: 1,034
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME:
    pretty standrad. infact even here on sky its a 30 min limit.
    Posted by The_Don90
    I KNOW, BUT WHY??
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  • JockBMWJockBMW Member Posts: 2,653
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME:
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME : I AM NEW TO LIVE CASH TBH JOCK, DONT WANT AN ARGUMENT JUST WANT TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND WHY?? I DONT GET WHY THE TABLE WOULD PREFER ME TO TAKE ALL THE MONEY OFF THE TABLE TO TAKING JUST SOME?? I DONT UNDERSTAND THE LOGIC BEHIND IT?? THEY WOULD PREFER AN EMPTY SEAT TO MY £100???
    Posted by bigflop1

    No argument implied BF.  It has always been that way in live cash Poker.  I for one agree with it.  

    I would rather have the odd empty seat left by someone who has hit and run ( which you didn't by the way, I thought the way you stayed and played and then announced your intention to leave was the perfect way for a gentleman to play this game ) , than have guys winning and pocketing the difference all night long. 

    My casino runs a 25p/25p cash game. Maximum sit down is £30.  I have been involved in £200 pots on these tables.  these size of pots wouldn't happen if people were allowed to pocket their profit once they had one a big pot.

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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,876
    edited October 2011

    It's called "weeding off" Sir, & is expressly forbidden in all Cash Games, everywhere, Live & Online. It always will be, too.

    It's just the way it is.
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  • JockBMWJockBMW Member Posts: 2,653
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME:
    WHEN LOOKING BACK I DID LOL AT MY INEXPERIENCE.. I ORDERED A DRINK.. WHEN IT CAME I TRIED PAYING WITH A £5 CHIP OUT OF MY STACK AT THE TABLE.. LUCKILY PLAYING WITH FRIENDS WHO JUST LAUGHED AT ME!!
    Posted by bigflop1

    Again this varies.  At my casino you CAN pay for food and drinks whilst at the table, using your table chips.  Wierd eh 

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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited October 2011

    Ive been told its to stop people gettinng annoyed and fighting

    just what ive been told tho.

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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,876
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME:
    WHEN LOOKING BACK I DID LOL AT MY INEXPERIENCE.. I ORDERED A DRINK.. WHEN IT CAME I TRIED PAYING WITH A £5 CHIP OUT OF MY STACK AT THE TABLE.. LUCKILY PLAYING WITH FRIENDS WHO JUST LAUGHED AT ME!!
    Posted by bigflop1
    In fact, that's quite normal, & perfectly acceptable, right, & proper. As always, of course, common sense applies. I always pay for my refreshments at the cash Tables from my "stack", though in any half-decent establishment, drinks are free to cash game players. Soft drinks, of course, should be & usually are free to ALL players.
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  • PiAnOpLaYaPiAnOpLaYa Member Posts: 554
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME:
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME : In fact, that's quite normal, & perfectly acceptable, right, & proper. As always, of course, common sense applies. I always pay for my refreshments at the cash Tables from my "stack", though in any half-decent establishment, drinks are free to cash game players. Soft drinks, of course, should be & usually are free to ALL players.
    Posted by Tikay10
    It's about time they started handing out free beer like they do in vegas
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME:
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME : In fact, that's quite normal, & perfectly acceptable, right, & proper. As always, of course, common sense applies. I always pay for my refreshments at the cash Tables from my "stack", though in any half-decent establishment, drinks are free to cash game players. Soft drinks, of course, should be & usually are free to ALL players.
    Posted by Tikay10
    this taught me how to play poker sober. :) very rarley drink and play now.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,876
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME:
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME : It's about time they started handing out free beer like they do in vegas
    Posted by PiAnOpLaYa
    Many will agree, though personally I do not believe it should be permissable to consume alcohol in a Cardroom. I don't expect many will agree with me though.....I can't begin to tell you how many times I've seen a relaxing evening's Poker ruined by idiots who cannot hold their alcohol. I'd have 'em shot...... 
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited October 2011
    In Response to TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME:
    LAST SUNDAY I PLAYED CASH IN MY LOCAL CASINO FOR THE FIRST TIME (PLAY MTTS THERE EVERY WEEK) BUT HAVE THE FOLLOWING QUESTION :- AFTER BUSTING THE NIGHTLY TOURNEY QUITE EARLY I DECIDED TO TRY MY LUCK AT THE CASH GAME WHICH WAS GOING ON.. I SAT DOWN WITH £100 @ 1/1... I HAD A FEW BIG HANDS AND MY £100 WAS SUDDENLY OVER £700. I KNEW ALL THE GUYS AT THE TABLE AS I PLAY MTTS THERE MOST NIGHTS, EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT I DIDNT KNOW THE RULES BUT QUESTIONED IF I COULD TAKE THE MONEY OFF THE TABLE AND LEAVE THE £100 I STARTED WITH.. THEY SAID NO ??? I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DO NOT WANT THEIR MONEY TAKEN OFF THE TABLE, BUT SURELY ME STAYING WITH £100 IS BETTER THAN TAKING IT ALL?? I DIDNT WANT TO UPSET ANYONE BY LEAVING STRAIGHT AWAY SO I SAT TIGHT FOR ABOUT AN HOUR THEN GAVE THE TABLE 10 HANDS NOTICE OF ME GOING TO LEAVE!! THE ONLY WAY I COULD HAVE REDUCED MY STACK WAS IF I STOOD WITH ALL MY MONEY.. WAITED HALF HOUR THEN I COULD SIT BACK DOWN WITH £100 AGAIN.. MY QUESTION IS :- WHY WOULD THEY PREFER TO PLAY WITH AN EMPTY SEAT FOR HALF HOUR RATHER THAN ME TAKE SOME MONEY BUT LEAVE £100 ON THE TABLE (THERE WAS NOONE WAITING FOR MY SEAT)
    Posted by bigflop1

    This is a good point.

    If those were the 2 options, u either reduce, or leave, I'm sure they'd rather you reduce.

    But if the option to reduce wasn't there, sometimes you would play on with 700. You wouldn't always leave. Because you might be enjoying yourself/it be too early, and you want to play on....

    I'm sure if they saw u as a fish (first time playing cash) they would rather you play on 100% even if it is back at 100, or maybe compromise @ 200?

    I've never been to a casino, but is there only 1 table running? Couldn't u just stand and go join another game with 100?

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  • PiAnOpLaYaPiAnOpLaYa Member Posts: 554
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME:
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME : Many will agree, though personally I do not believe it should be permissable to consume alcohol in a Cardroom. I don't expect many will agree with me though.....I can't begin to tell you how many times I've seen a relaxing evening's Poker ruined by idiots who cannot hold their alcohol. I'd have 'em shot...... 
    Posted by Tikay10
    I wont drink and play, but its easy to take money off drunk people
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,876
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME:
    In Response to TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME : This is a good point. If those were the 2 options, u either reduce, or leave, I'm sure they'd rather you reduce. But if the option to reduce wasn't there, sometimes you would play on with 700. You wouldn't always leave. Because you might be enjoying yourself/it be too early, and you want to play on.... I'm sure if they saw u as a fish (first time playing cash) they would rather you play on 100% even if it is back at 100, or maybe compromise @ 200? I've never been to a casino, but is there only 1 table running? Couldn't u just stand and go join another game with 100?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Not in a well-run establishment, no, absolutely not. It tends to "break the Table" when people try to do that.

    Anyone is free to leave at any time, but weeding off is just not done, ever ever ever. Players who get caught weeding off - & I've seen it lots of times - are treated like thieves & cheats.
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited October 2011
    Standard practice there.

    30 mins is very very rare to find.  TBH if I left with 700£ and half an hour later sat back in with a 100£ I'd be a bit embarrased.  But people would be out to get you so I expect you would get some very light all ins.

    Just do what most normal people do.  Sit tight for a bt and then leave,

    In Vegas a man sat on mine and Hurtsys cash table with a hundred dollars.  Within an orbit he had about 2.5k and just left.  People weren't happy....
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  • PiAnOpLaYaPiAnOpLaYa Member Posts: 554
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: TAKING MONEY OFF TABLE IN LIVE CASH GAME:
    Standard practice there. 30 mins is very very rare to find.  TBH if I left with 700£ and half an hour later sat back in with a 100£ I'd be a bit embarrased.  But people would be out to get you so I expect you would get some very light all ins. Just do what most normal people do.  Sit tight for a bt and then leave, In Vegas a man sat on mine and Hurtsys cash table with a hundred dollars.  Within an orbit he had about 2.5k and just left.  People weren't happy....
    Posted by scotty77
    Who cares if people are happy or not...

    If your never going to see them again I have no issue with a hit and run, its different if you are down your local casino.
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  • NColleyNColley Member Posts: 1,178
    edited October 2011
    This would of been bad etiquette imo, someone said the OP was ok not to hit and run but in a way he wanted to since he wanted to pocket the £600 profit and play on. Also is there really the need to type every post in capitals, it just gives me the impression that you are angry about this.

    You could maybe found people not so friendly if you had gone through with it and left immediately so fair play for playing on for a bit.
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  • jugglegeekjugglegeek Member Posts: 623
    edited October 2011

    This is the strange difference between online cash and live cash. If I'm playing online then I buy in for the max and leave the table the moment I double up. This isn't rude it's good bankroll management. If I have £200 in my roll then I should play NL10. If I double up at a NL10 table then I have £20 out of £210 that I could risk in one hand.

    So if you go to a live cash game and play with £100 at NL100 out of a £2K roll then why is it considered rude to leave once you have doubled up?

    I've never played live cash but I think once I have a decent roll I might because the standard of play seems softer than at the same stakes online. But this has always puzzled me about the live game

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