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What now?

PiAnOpLaYaPiAnOpLaYa Member Posts: 554
edited October 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Had no real reads on this player he had been opening quite.

I'd 3 bet him twice both times he called and I took it down with a c-bet.

Didnt 3 bet pre as I'd just closed down all tbles, thought i'd clicked stand on this table and this was going to be my last hand. Didnt want to get involved in a 3bet pot OOP (was happy with my 3BI profit) vs a villian who was 90% to call my 3bet anyway.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
PiAnOpLaYa Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £13.13
TIS-DUD Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £10.44
 Your hole cards
  • A
  • K
   
Petrachek1 Fold     
denty765 Raise  £0.40 £0.55 £10.77
el_gringo_ Fold     
can60 Fold     
PiAnOpLaYa Call  £0.35 £0.90 £12.78
TIS-DUD Fold     
Flop
  
  • J
  • A
  • 5
   
PiAnOpLaYa Check     
denty765 Bet  £0.45 £1.35 £10.32
PiAnOpLaYa Raise  £1.35 £2.70 £11.43
denty765 Raise  £3.60 £6.30 £6.72
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  • NColleyNColley Member Posts: 1,178
    edited October 2011
    denty is stacking w/ AQ here too but thats about all your beating.
    don't mind if you shoved, but folding would prob be better longterm.
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  • BigHawk89BigHawk89 Member Posts: 627
    edited October 2011
    If your going to flat preflop i like just a flat call on the flop, if you raise and planning on folding to re raise your turning top pair top kicker into 73 off suit. Deffo should 3 bet pre though seen as though your OOP.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited October 2011
    As played im settin him in now , nh
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited October 2011
    Better to 3bet but once you call I would play it slow and check call all the way as it allows him to think AQ/A10 is good.
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  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: What now?:
    If your going to flat preflop i like just a flat call on the flop, if you raise and planning on folding to re raise your turning top pair top kicker into 73 off suit. Deffo should 3 bet pre though seen as though your OOP.
    Posted by BigHawk89
    this, and if you meant to stand up and dont want to play it fold pre, no ones watching haha
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited October 2011
    what was your thinking when you raise flop?
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  • PiAnOpLaYaPiAnOpLaYa Member Posts: 554
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: What now?:
    what was your thinking when you raise flop?
    Posted by grantorino
    I thought i had the best hand and was happy to take the pot down
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited October 2011
    If you raise it's for value or bluff, saying you want to take it down means it was a bluff as you don't want call and I don't think that's great with your hand.
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  • PiAnOpLaYaPiAnOpLaYa Member Posts: 554
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: What now?:
    If you raise it's for value or bluff, saying you want to take it down means it was a bluff as you don't want call and I don't think that's great with your hand.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    So as played.

    What do you think would have been the best thing to do post flop?
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited October 2011
    What I wrote eariler, just let him keep barreling at you and just call with a VERY underrepped hand that he can't EVER put you on realistically.
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  • PiAnOpLaYaPiAnOpLaYa Member Posts: 554
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: What now?:
    What I wrote eariler, just let him keep barreling at you and just call with a VERY underrepped hand that he can't EVER put you on realistically.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    Arent I just giving him the chance to hit his 2nd pair?
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited October 2011
    If he hits his 2nd pair you say well done he hits it very rarely.

    An example from NL8
    Dudeskin8 Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £9.01
    riproarin Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £6.62
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • Q
    		     
    Kaz_iam Fold        
    dgw69 Call   £0.08 £0.20 £10.64
    x Raise   £0.24 £0.44 £18.56
    mudrinho18 Fold        
    Dudeskin8 Call   £0.20 £0.64 £8.81
    riproarin Fold        
    dgw69 Call   £0.16 £0.80 £10.48
    Flop
       
    • A
    • 2
    • 6
    		     
    Dudeskin8 Check        
    dgw69 Check        
    x Bet   £0.40 £1.20 £18.16
    Dudeskin8 Call   £0.40 £1.60 £8.41
    dgw69 Fold        
    Turn
       
    • 10
    		     
    Dudeskin8 Check        
    x Bet   £0.64 £2.24 £17.52
    Dudeskin8 Call   £0.64 £2.88 £7.77
    River
       
    • 9
    		     
    Dudeskin8 Check        
    x Bet   £0.96 £3.84 £16.56
    Dudeskin8 Call   £0.96 £4.80 £6.81
    x Show
    • 7
    • K
    		     
    Dudeskin8 Show
    • A
    • Q
    		     
    Dudeskin8 Win Pair of Aces £4.44   £11.25
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited October 2011
    You should only raise flop as bluff or to get it in so whats the problem.

    If he turns up with AJ/set then hard cheese.
    He turns up with AQ enough of the time me finks to make ez money

    you could check down and raise river for value i guess, under rep hand )
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