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Another call or fold question for you all

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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited October 2011
    I see your predicament. Very interesting question Rent...

    People have mentioned that he may have AQh etc, surely AQh is about the perfect hand you could have for this flop and I'd imagine he knows you're a decent player so surely he's massively losing value re-shoving that much when really what can you call with (other than 4h 5h).

    I think it's just about a call.
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: Another call or fold question for you all:
    Flopping a straight flush draw leaves you 60% to hit either a straight a flush or indeed a straight flush. Snap call. Especially against a guy as aggro as this.
    Posted by Fluxfoxy32
    Surely you're equity would depend upon whether it's an open ended straight flush draw or a gutshot one?
  • Fluxfoxy32Fluxfoxy32 Member Posts: 59
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: Another call or fold question for you all:
    In Response to Re: Another call or fold question for you all : Surely you're equity would depend upon whether it's an open ended straight flush draw or a gutshot one?
    Posted by Lambert180
    It does, flopping an open ender is 60%. Youll have 4 cards to hit either side of the straight (8) and then theres approx (13-4-2=7) 7 flush cards for you to hit which is 15 outs in total. 15x2x2=60.
    If its an inside straight flush draw then you still have the 7 flush cards to hit but youll only have 4 cards to hit for a straight which is 11 total outs. 11x2x2=44%
  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited October 2011
    I clicked call on the old voting system but really we should probably fold here. You could only have 2 outs and that would explain his move to do thi with a big draw.
    As per reads i thinks it's more of a reason to fold as your taking that money eventually so wait for a better spot.
  • Fluxfoxy32Fluxfoxy32 Member Posts: 59
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: Another call or fold question for you all:
    I clicked call on the old voting system but really we should probably fold here. You could only have 2 outs and that would explain his move to do thi with a big draw. As per reads i thinks it's more of a reason to fold as your taking that money eventually so wait for a better spot.
    Posted by Batkin88
    He has loooooooads of outs. How could he only have two outs ???
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: Another call or fold question for you all:
    In Response to Re: Another call or fold question for you all : i would call so fast the button would be hot, the odds are so much in your favor
    Posted by jimchree24
    Really? How much are they in our favour?

    I agree its a call, its basically a flip though and we only need 44% equity so get it in, but its not a massively profitable spot
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: Another call or fold question for you all:
    In Response to Re: Another call or fold question for you all : It does, flopping an open ender is 60%. Youll have 4 cards to hit either side of the straight (8) and then theres approx (13-4-2=7) 7 flush cards for you to hit which is 15 outs in total. 15x2x2=60. If its an inside straight flush draw then you still have the 7 flush cards to hit but youll only have 4 cards to hit for a straight which is 11 total outs. 11x2x2=44%
    Posted by Fluxfoxy32
    Im pretty sure we are not 60% to hit (rule of 4 not good for that many outs), also we dont always win when we hit
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