I second that too!! after seeing you on the box last night and the advice you gave me today i was routing for ya!!! well done fella Posted by margatemaf
yes, very well played sir - congratulations (even if you did knock me out!) ;-)
A colleague today criticised my play on the final hand - I've had a think and believe my play was sound. From memory, this is how it went. What do you think?
Blinds 40,000/80,000
Player 1 SB chip stack circa 670,000
Player 2 BB chip stack circa 620,000
Me chip stack circa 655,000
I'm thinking that I don't really have 8 big blinds. Each hand costs 40,000, no way will I go below 300,000 so in effect I'm only going to see 8 or 9 hands before I'm in serious trouble.
Anyway, I'm dealy A3o in the scenario above and shove the lot in. After a while the SB calls with QJ, hits his jack and I'm out in 3rd place as no A comes (big blind folding). SB goes on to win comfortably.
QJ is 43% to beat A3, and with the fold equity I think the shove is a good one. In fact, if the SB could see my hand he would have folded! I guess he hoped that I had QT, Q9 or JT.
The criticism was that A3 is too small to move with - maybe A8 or better. The fact that I would have lost with AK, AQ, AT...any hand except AA, KK, QQ or AJ was irrelevant - A3 is just too small to shove in that position.
After thinking about it, I would do it again. But am I right?
Congrats Sir - I'm not supposed to be biased, but I was rooting for you, simply because you'd been such a great a 'Phone Guest the night before. I'd have been thrilled beyond words if you had won it.
Your Exit hand was played 100% correctly by you - no question about it,
If you want to compare the merits of your Play, & the player who busted you, ask these two questions.
1) Who went in with the better hand?
2) Is it better to shove with a Marginal, than Call with a Marginal?
You did nothing wrong. To be fair, the guy with JQ is entitled to think his hand could be good, as you would be jamming with any two, given the Blinds.
Your play was standard, perfect, & correct. His Call was not that bad, either. The size of the Blinds cause these situations.
m8 u plyed final tble correctly in my eyes . congrats on 3rd i was close i got 52nd but i played mine badly had 7 bbs 2 allins i call with 55 was up against AQ pocket 10s but i thought if i want to win it if they both had ace high im in with a gr8 shout, i hit the 5 on flop but 10 turn so wd to mycroft who took my chips. anyway m8 wd on ur 3rd
However in this case, where all stacks are similar, I don't think that you are under much blind pressure. But we will be next round and A3 is massive 3 handed. The blinds are so big that the skill goes out the window, and when you push with A3 you are either a marginal favourite or you are crushed.
But it is easy with hindsight, whenever I've run deep and ended up not winning I always second guess many, many hands that have lead up to my felting.
Big Buster .. for what it's worth I'd have done the same as you...you have to at that stage ..in fact not have to, I'd want to !!!! glk mate nice result )
Big Buster .. for what it's worth I'd have done the same as you...you have to at that stage ..in fact not have to, I'd want to !!!! glk mate nice result ) Posted by bennydip2
You've got busters on the brain! lol ;-)
Well done BigBluster, nice to see a fellow forumer posterings do well and cash very nicely. Cheers!
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Thanks all. I'm happy with the payday.
A colleague today criticised my play on the final hand - I've had a think and believe my play was sound. From memory, this is how it went. What do you think?
Blinds 40,000/80,000
Player 1 SB chip stack circa 670,000
Player 2 BB chip stack circa 620,000
Me chip stack circa 655,000
I'm thinking that I don't really have 8 big blinds. Each hand costs 40,000, no way will I go below 300,000 so in effect I'm only going to see 8 or 9 hands before I'm in serious trouble.
Anyway, I'm dealy A3o in the scenario above and shove the lot in. After a while the SB calls with QJ, hits his jack and I'm out in 3rd place as no A comes (big blind folding). SB goes on to win comfortably.
QJ is 43% to beat A3, and with the fold equity I think the shove is a good one. In fact, if the SB could see my hand he would have folded! I guess he hoped that I had QT, Q9 or JT.
The criticism was that A3 is too small to move with - maybe A8 or better. The fact that I would have lost with AK, AQ, AT...any hand except AA, KK, QQ or AJ was irrelevant - A3 is just too small to shove in that position.
After thinking about it, I would do it again. But am I right?
Congrats Sir - I'm not supposed to be biased, but I was rooting for you, simply because you'd been such a great a 'Phone Guest the night before. I'd have been thrilled beyond words if you had won it.
Your Exit hand was played 100% correctly by you - no question about it,
If you want to compare the merits of your Play, & the player who busted you, ask these two questions.
1) Who went in with the better hand?
2) Is it better to shove with a Marginal, than Call with a Marginal?
You did nothing wrong. To be fair, the guy with JQ is entitled to think his hand could be good, as you would be jamming with any two, given the Blinds.
Your play was standard, perfect, & correct. His Call was not that bad, either. The size of the Blinds cause these situations.
Anyways, well done you!
How much you get? £800+ was it?
Have to agree with tikay, vwp and well done
i probably dont push there with the stack sizes being so even i beleive you could wait a bit longer,the call was worse than the push though,wp.
Well done BigBluster, nice to see a fellow forumer posterings do well and cash very nicely. Cheers!