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DYM - Cooler??

Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
edited October 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Yes I know I have AA against someone who has flopped 2pr with a hand he should never have raised with pre, let alone call my 3bet with but the way the raising went on the flop, should I have known I was beat and can I get away or is there too many Qs in his range?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
mkgunner Small blind   15.00 15.00 2465.00
jimmy77 Big blind   30.00 45.00 1690.00
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • A
     
county Raise   90.00 135.00 1990.00
Todsa Fold        
Lambert180 Raise   210.00 345.00 1760.00
rundonkey Fold        
mkgunner Fold        
jimmy77 Fold        
county Call   120.00 465.00 1870.00
Flop
   
  • 7
  • 3
  • Q
     
county Bet   90.00 555.00 1780.00
Lambert180 Raise   210.00 765.00 1550.00
county Raise   360.00 1125.00 1420.00
Lambert180 Raise   690.00 1815.00 860.00
county All-in   1420.00 3235.00 0.00
Lambert180 All-in   860.00 4095.00 0.00
county Unmatched bet   110.00 3985.00 110.00
county Show
  • 7
  • Q
     
Lambert180 Show
  • A
  • A
     
Turn
   
  • 8
     
River
   
  • 4
     
county Win Two Pairs, Queens and 7s 3985.00   4095.00
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited October 2011
    In cash I'm never folding on this flop can't imagine that changes at DYM's maybe I'm wrong.

    The way it's little raises makes it slightly suspicous, why didn't you just shove over his 3bet of 360 if anything I just call here and let him bet turn and get it in.
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  • wason06wason06 Member Posts: 61
    edited October 2011

    Firstly I would say your 3bet sizing is on the small side. I would make it around 250-275 in this spot. As for the betting on the flop I think it fair to say you were told you were beat. In similar situations I have found myself in the opponent has always turned up with 2 pair or a set.

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  • splashiessplashies Member Posts: 3,680
    edited October 2011

    3-Bet bigger preflop.


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  • PiAnOpLaYaPiAnOpLaYa Member Posts: 554
    edited October 2011
    In Response to DYM - Cooler??:
    Yes I know I have AA against someone who has flopped 2pr with a hand he should never have raised with pre, let alone call my 3bet with but the way the raising went on the flop, should I have known I was beat and can I get away or is there too many Qs in his range? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance mkgunner Small blind   15.00 15.00 2465.00 jimmy77 Big blind   30.00 45.00 1690.00   Your hole cards A A       county Raise   90.00 135.00 1990.00 Todsa Fold         Lambert180 Raise   210.00 345.00 1760.00 rundonkey Fold         mkgunner Fold         jimmy77 Fold         county Call   120.00 465.00 1870.00 Flop     7 3 Q       county Bet   90.00 555.00 1780.00 Lambert180 Raise   210.00 765.00 1550.00 county Raise   360.00 1125.00 1420.00 Lambert180 Raise   690.00 1815.00 860.00 county All-in   1420.00 3235.00 0.00 Lambert180 All-in   860.00 4095.00 0.00 county Unmatched bet   110.00 3985.00 110.00 county Show 7 Q       Lambert180 Show A A       Turn     8       River     4       county Win Two Pairs, Queens and 7s 3985.00   4095.00
    Posted by Lambert180
    I think it all comes down to notes to you on this player.

    Do they raise with TPTK? Will they only do this with a monster?
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited October 2011
    3 bet pre bigger 260-300

    As played cant see how you can call, although if he's willing to play Q7 in a dym pre then he probably stacks of with Qx 1 pair so cant be terribad.

    After he donks out i would re-raise more, as played 350ish and fold to his shove or re-raise

    As i say though if you have a good read that he will stack of with any Q which is likely then you can call, only other thing i would say is make a note how the betting went post flop for future games
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited October 2011

    3bet bigger, like 300, if u already know this guy bad then make it even bigger

    i'm raising much bigger on the flop
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  • bolly580bolly580 Member Posts: 603
    edited October 2011
    o my lord why are you even posting this hand?

    your not foldin AA on possiblt the worlds safest flop are you?
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited October 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM - Cooler??:
    o my lord why are you even posting this hand? your not foldin AA on possiblt the worlds safest flop are you?
    Posted by bolly580
    In a DYM its easier to fold Aces, on the odd occasion double your money specialists will fold pre ask JohnConnor

    post flop i personally think its foldable if your playing well
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  • bolly580bolly580 Member Posts: 603
    edited October 2011
    i play a lot of Dyms and have been profitable in them, however now my bankroll is sufficient i can effectively multi table big cash games, ya cant really fold this as played
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited October 2011
    I actually like the 3 bet size.  All we really want to do is isolate him.  We dont want him to fold.  Frankly if he calls the 210 (or opens Q7 for that matter) he'd have called up to 300.

    I'd be worried when he 3bet clicks back flop.  Probably flat to see what he does at turn.

    Just UL here bud.
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