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Is this a bad play?

SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
edited November 2011 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
baker43 Small blind  200.00 200.00 15135.00
Slykllist Big blind  400.00 600.00 6922.00
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • 6
     
fredsgirl Fold     
scrumdown Fold     
Call  400.00 1000.00 5975.00
Theredcat Fold     
baker43 Raise  600.00 1600.00 14535.00
Slykllist Call  400.00 2000.00 6522.00
bigal36903 Call  400.00 2400.00 5575.00
Flop
   
  • 4
  • Q
  • Q
     
baker43 Check     
Slykllist Check     
Bet  1200.00 3600.00 4375.00
baker43 Fold     
Slykllist All-in  6522.00 10122.00 0.00
bigal36903 All-in  4375.00 14497.00 0.00
Slykllist Unmatched bet  947.00 13550.00 947.00
Slykllist Show
  • A
  • 6
   
Show
  • 5
  • 5
   
Turn
   
  • A
     
River
   
  • 3
     
Slykllist Win Two Pairs, Aces and Queens 13550.00  14497.00
I've called pre for value as I know we will go 3 way to the flop.  When he bets in position, I don't give him any credit at all for having a Q and figure I would play it exactly like I have with KQ or similar and stack sizes are about right to give him enough fold equity, so I shove repping the Q.

Ok, I got lucky hitting the turn but I thought this was a good spot to make the move, the other player took it badly and we had an exchange of views in chat so I wondered what others thought of my line here?

Comments

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited November 2011
    Snap fold pre for me.

    If baker just limps in SB pre I probz shove to take down dead money in middle but after raise I'm not sure he folds to shove plus if we're called we're dead.

    On flop the shove looks like a bluff as if you had any sort of decent pair pre you'd shove not just flat and go 3 way so he makes good call and you get lucky.

    Overall I think there's better spots to get your money in than this imo.
  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Is this a bad play?:
    Snap fold pre for me. If baker just limps in SB pre I probz shove to take down dead money in middle but after raise I'm not sure he folds to shove plus if we're called we're dead. On flop the shove looks like a bluff as if you had any sort of decent pair pre you'd shove not just flat and go 3 way so he makes good call and you get lucky. Overall I think there's better spots to get your money in than this imo.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    I already had 400 in the BB pre so had to put 400 into a pot that I knew would be 2400 to see the flop which is the only reason I made the call pre.  The rest of it I agree with though.
  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Is this a bad play?:
    dont know y u went all in was u blufffing or did u think u was ahead i would of just folded u havent put much into this pot and your bluffing to win the pot and got lucky if your plan was to go all in y didnt u do it as a squeeze play preflop and pick up the dead money 
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
    I knew I wasn't ahead, I was representing holding a Q, which I would have played in exactly this way.
  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited November 2011
    I defo fold pre , unless of course its sooted
  • huuuuumehuuuuume Member Posts: 569
    edited November 2011
    do you shove the flop if you have a queen?  i cant see how this would be a profitable way to play a flopped set.

    i dont mind the flop shove...a big part of villain's range will fold on this flop.

    as for representing the queen?  no chance.
  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited November 2011
    Hehehehehe.... so it seems I played bad and got lucky then :)

    Ah well, I went on to cash anyway.
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