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BAD CALL????

ricky1984ricky1984 Member Posts: 140
edited November 2011 in The Poker Clinic

Hand History #433770146 (13:43 05/11/2011)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
ricky1984 Small blind  75.00 75.00 5790.00
RATTY21 Big blind  150.00 225.00 6992.50
 Your hole cards
  • J
  • A
   
FIGGY0 Call  150.00 375.00 13405.00
katescards Call  150.00 525.00 15352.50
mariner091 Fold     
ricky1984 Call  75.00 600.00 5715.00
RATTY21 Check     
Flop
  
  • K
  • Q
  • K
   
ricky1984 Check     
RATTY21 Check     
FIGGY0 Check     
katescards Check     
Turn
  
  • Q
   
ricky1984 Bet  150.00 750.00 5565.00
RATTY21 Call  150.00 900.00 6842.50
FIGGY0 Fold     
katescards Fold     
River
  
  • 5
   
ricky1984 Check     
RATTY21 All-in  6842.50 7742.50 0.00
ricky1984 All-in  5565.00 13307.50 0.00
RATTY21 Unmatched bet  1277.50 12030.00 1277.50
ricky1984 Show
  • J
  • A
   
RATTY21 Show
  • K
  • A
   
RATTY21 Win Full House, Kings and Queens 12030.00  13307.50
Here was my theory.

1: no raised pot pre-flop, so figuring no-one to have a huge hand.
2: no interest on the flop from anybody, so figuring the second queen to be a good card for me. flat call from big blind also didnt worry me as I felt at worst i was chopping. as he didnt raise pre-flop, i didnt put him on ak, aq. kq was a possibility but unlikely. any other queen, i felt sure he would of put out some kind of bet on the flop. my only concern would be, as he was bb, he could of had a raggy king but if he did, good luck to him.
3: blank river, i intended to check call the river whatever happens. although I dwelled up on my 'hero' call at the end, it actually convinced me even more i had the best hand.
Surely it is only in the interest of the bettor to over-bet the river (with the nuts) if he felt sure i was going to call. how could he think i had a queen. surely i would of bet the river with a full house??
Therefore with such a big bet, i felt confident my hand was good.

AK!!! this was the one hand i never could of put him on.

Was this a really bad call from me???? great, if not unorthodox, play from the guy with AK???

Please note: I do not pretend to be a great player, or think i know what im talking about. just thought id share my thoughts with how the hand went. Would really like some feedback, as im always looking at ways to improve my game
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  • PiAnOpLaYaPiAnOpLaYa Member Posts: 554
    edited November 2011
    Fold turn 100% fold river

    in the BB he could have checked and raggy K high hand.

    At best your calling to split the pot.

    if he had K2 he prob plays the hand the same way
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  • goldnballzgoldnballz Member Posts: 2,814
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: BAD CALL????:
    Fold turn 100% fold river in the BB he could have checked and raggy K high hand. At best you've got to the calling to split the pot. if he had K2 he prob plays the hand the same way
    Posted by PiAnOpLaYa
    +1
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited November 2011

    river is the easiest fold ever

    bluffing that turn is optimistic 4way imo, just c/f

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  • cleaverjimcleaverjim Member Posts: 1,070
    edited November 2011
    YES,TERRIBLE CALL
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  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited November 2011
    Yep, easy fold here on the river.

    Couple of points/questions, as i am a tourney donk!

    Why are'nt we raising it up pre flop?

    If your gonna have a pop at it on the turn, betsizing needs to be bigger.
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  • ricky1984ricky1984 Member Posts: 140
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: BAD CALL????:
    YES,TERRIBLE CALL
    Posted by cleaverjim
    Thanks for this great insight into why it was a terrible call!! lol. Like I said im not pretending i am a great player, but thanks for the feedback guys. it is now hurting me a little more, knowing that it really was a huge mistake.

    Also I didnt raise pre-flop as the table were serial limp-callers and didnt really fancy raising pot OOP with a hand that so often gets me into trouble.....although it still managed to do that anyway!!!

    Thanks anyway guys, maybe if i sort leaks like this out, ill soon be making a profit!
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  • angie6108angie6108 Member Posts: 225
    edited November 2011
    awfull ya calling all in to hit a gutshot and even if u do hit ya 4 outter u still might be behind already to a full house lol 
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  • ricky1984ricky1984 Member Posts: 140
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: BAD CALL????:
    awfull ya calling all in to hit a gutshot and even if u do hit ya 4 outter u still might be behind already to a full house lol 
    Posted by angie6108
    I wasnt calling to hit a gut-shot! i called on the river. as my analysis says, i felt my 2pair, top kicker might of been good at this point. i know that i wasnt getting the right price to call, but it was just a hunch i was correct.

    more fool me
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited November 2011
    The best you can hope for is a split pot and with just 900 in there by river there's no need to risk it.
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