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Why do players keep calling with junk?
davelufc
Member Posts: 1,376
Dream flop for villain though !!!
Other than this flop, what was he expecting to see?
Other than this flop, what was he expecting to see?
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| davelufc | Small blind | 30.00 | 30.00 | 4360.00 | |
| jayjools | Big blind | 60.00 | 90.00 | 3790.00 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| Rickyyyy | Call | 60.00 | 150.00 | 6102.50 | |
| Quacka7 | Call | 60.00 | 210.00 | 3792.50 | |
| eversure07 | Fold | ||||
| sladee02 | Call | 60.00 | 270.00 | 2517.50 | |
| davelufc | Raise | 300.00 | 570.00 | 4060.00 | |
| jayjools | Fold | ||||
| Rickyyyy | Fold | ||||
| Quacka7 | Call | 270.00 | 840.00 | 3522.50 | |
| sladee02 | Call | 270.00 | 1110.00 | 2247.50 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| davelufc | All-in | 4060.00 | 5170.00 | 0.00 | |
| Quacka7 | All-in | 3522.50 | 8692.50 | 0.00 | |
| sladee02 | Fold | ||||
| davelufc | Unmatched bet | 537.50 | 8155.00 | 537.50 | |
| davelufc | Show |
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| Quacka7 | Show |
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| Turn | |||||
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| River | |||||
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| Quacka7 | Win | Three 6s | 8155.00 | 8155.00 | |
Comments
I certainly didn`t put him on a 6, like you say, he shouln`t really have been in the hand.
6 3 os, another premium hand triumphs again!!!!!!
As played though flop bet is awful as it takes away any chance of him bluffing he only calls with made hands, yes hard to have 6 after preflop raise but you want to make it about 650 so he can make flop call with over cards like AJ AQ and also he may think he can shove to make you fold whereby you quickly call.
The fact that Sky poker rewards these players with outdraws CONSISTANTLY is a joke.
To answer the question, they call because they are simple.
I suppose it was just one of those hands that i was not destined to win.
Flop bet was poor as you say but i was trying to get him off the hand.
I have made notes on player.
You're right though, people who say poker is rigged arn't silent, nor are they the minority, because 95% of poker players are losing players. It doesn't take a genius to realise that poker is a skill game, and bad-beats happen on EVERY site, and both Live, and Online.
I'm doing a post soon on my blog about whether poker is rigged, you should check it out sir. Not that it'll change your mind because the psychology behind thinking poker is rigged will likely mean you are stubborn about changing your mind-set. It's comforting to think that everyone else is wrong and you are right. That you losing money online isn't your fault and that's it's Sky's fault for being 'rigged'. Because god forbid you do some investigation into the matter, it's much easier to just shut out everyone elses logical viewpoint, and just cross your arms and give the V's to everyone that doesn't agree with you.
I know that, because, well, even though i'm a winning player online there are and have been times where i've quit poker because i've ran bad, and even thought it was rigged at some points too. (years ago when i was uneducated and misinformed. And i wasn't too good either!)
Oh and imo, i hate to say it, but OP played the hand poorly. Even the justification behind the play wasn't sufficient to explain why he shoved the flop. Having said that, whether you bet 4k or 500 you still go broke in the hand, so it's just ul really.
Also, wp to you for thinking that just because i might be a losing player, means that i'm not right with what i've said. Just because i may be a losing player, doesn't mean that when i say 2 + 2 is 4, that i'm wrong.
But nicely done Sherlock, come sit with me at the tables for some free money some time.
The originiator of the post was unlucky, it happens though. Would he be more pleased if his KK ran into AA or a flopped set, I doubt it. If you play long enough you will see more bad beats than you can shake a stick at.
GL.
Fact is you have played 220 games on sky poker and your $1,322 down, my record isnt amazing either. But im certainly not being lectured by someone who is clearly a fraud and yes it does matter who is giving the advice.
There's a game I used to plat at Nap's In hull every tuesday for around 3 years. £50 FO DS 10k in chips around 45/50 runners. Solid structure.
At least 10 of these players never knew what the heck they were doing from the 1st day they started until 3 years later.
Its not important to them to learn poker strategy, optimum play or learning the correct stack size decisions.
They still lift their cards up like they are reading a book. Pay no attention to the bet sizes in front of them, Even when a hand has been 4bet by the time it got to them. They'll still look at J8o and think "Oi'll like to see aaahhh flooorrp withhhh thaaarrrt", even if its for 70% of their stack to call.
They'll limp 40% of their stack to fold to a raise.
Some people arent interested in being great poker players. Nor do they care how bad they play. Nor do they have any interest in learning/changing or improving. They will do what they want to do, be it profitable or just downright spewy.
To them, the hand starts on the flop. Stack regardless, bets pre regardless, table images regardless.
Learning to be a better player doesnt even enter some peoples minds. 3yrs, every week, they still played as bad as when they started.
Frustrating? Yes. Can we change it? Do we WANT to change it? No
Just unlucky ...
In Response to Re: Why do players keep calling with junk?:
Fraud? lol, carlossmitalos.blogspot.com . Enjoy.
The sample size of tournies and sit'n'go's is ridiculously small, and you're oblivious to what makes a good player. Just by coming on here and slandering me for being poor when you've never ever seen me play 1 hand, is hilarious.
But let's get onto the reason why you feel like you have to come on here and troll, moan, and generally be a pain in the @ss to the rest of us trying to have a decent conversation about poker.
Funny how poker isn't rigged when you yourself get lucky, but when other people get lucky on you. Nevermind the fact the hand wasn't played the best to begin with.
Most of the time when i've thought i've ran bad, it turns out i've played the hand sub-optimally to begin with. All you have to do is look on YouTube and see the super-sick suckouts that happen live to realise online poker is simply not-rigged. It's much easier and makes you happier to just be extremely stubborn and think that everyone else is wrong rather than review your own play and possibly find out that you were wrong. (because, no-one likes being wrong, right?).
99.9% of players who say it's rigged are poor players. Heck, at one stage of my life beginning to learn poker i thought FullTilt could've been rigged! Turns out i just sucked and whilst i did run really bad, i didn't play well either.
Like Ambyr said, the only way we could ever prove it's the players fault for losing money is because they're poor, is to show them that they're bad.
Do we want that? No thank you!
Referring to the bad poker players you've played against.
Which is exactly what i was implying, by saying that i'd rather not change the way bad players play against me.
The hint was the 'Like xxxx said', not 'xxxx said'. Apologies if it came across in a way that seems like you'd never want to help people correct their mistakes at the table, even though i would've thought people could see just from your post count that this is not the case.
Was directly responding to theme of thread, "Why do players keep caalling with junk". Some people just play to play, never caring about anything else.
Delusional?? Not much. Your form varies from tilt to super tilt. I rest my case.
Laters
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