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am i a fish??
pod1
Member Posts: 4,377
been on the table with this player about 2hrs, reg at this level and maybe higher. im pretty sure im ahead up to the river. his flatting suggests a draw or a biggish pp (well thats what i thought anyhows). when the river comes i was going to c/c. the size of the bet was the confusing bit, overbet, max value, protecting???. had this been at a lower level i woulda insta folded, but this player can do this with air. should i call?
| pod1 | Small blind | £0.20 | £0.20 | £46.76 | |
| AJ_Rockets | Big blind | £0.40 | £0.60 | £54.39 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| Raise | £1.20 | £1.80 | £66.17 | ||
| cyberdog | Fold | ||||
| shawsok | Fold | ||||
| pod1 | Raise | £2.60 | £4.40 | £44.16 | |
| AJ_Rockets | Fold | ||||
| Call | £1.60 | £6.00 | £64.57 | ||
| Flop | |||||
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| pod1 | Bet | £3.00 | £9.00 | £41.16 | |
| Call | £3.00 | £12.00 | £61.57 | ||
| Turn | |||||
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| pod1 | Bet | £6.00 | £18.00 | £35.16 | |
| Call | £6.00 | £24.00 | £55.57 | ||
| River | |||||
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| pod1 | Check | ||||
| All-in | £55.57 | £79.57 | £0.00 | ||
Comments
Flop bet at least £4.50.
Turn as played bet £8.
River flush gets there but if you bet bigger on flop turn river can be shove as played still probz bet call.
9,10,3dd flop. This is draw heavy you need to bet />1/2 pot, 70% of pot is prob best. You have give him a v good price to call for a draw. If you had bet more pre and on flop villan might RR with his draw as he is not getting the right price.
How often have you 3 bet from the small blind? If villan is good and you have a very slim 3bet range then he might have you on the hand you have, thats why he shoves river, pos thinking you wont fold overpair.
(b) surely if he thinks hes ahead shoving allows him the chance to max his value
1 Whats your perceived 3b range sb v utg
2 What do you think villains calling range is.
3 Would he usually flat nfd or sets on that flop/turn
4 Does he think you are capable of laying down an overpair
3bet bigger pre, you are oop and slightly deep, I would make it 4.20
Bet flop a little bigger, I doubt he folds much
Personally I prob type fml in the chatbox and call from limited info you gave, he shouldnt have many flushes or sets here imo. On the otherhand he shouldnt have much air and I wouldnt think he bets JJ,QQ that often here, toughie
I said shoving allows villain the chance to max his value, as it doesnt look like a spot where betting small is likely to induce. The max villain can win is £35 more, assuming pod never c/r any hand that doesnt call it off the best way get that 35 is to shove. I also never said villain should shove. I think though assuming it leans his range more towards a bluff than value is dangerous.
Obv the amount he bets depends how likely he thinks he is to get a call whether he is vbetting or bluffing. If he is betting for value the more he bets the less often he needs to get called. If he is bluffing the more he bets the more often he has to get folds. Betsizing is about finding the figure which acheives the most profit.
For example if villain has nuts and somehow knows a bet of £18 gets called 100% he should shove if a bet of £35 gets called at least 52% of time. Thats just a very rough example the optimum figure may well lie between