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Extracting max value - nut flush

rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
edited November 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Am I leaving value behind anywhere here
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
flynn37 Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £3.02
rancid Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £16.62
  Your hole cards
  • 7
  • Q
     
leigh1969 Call   £0.08 £0.20 £12.69
red-army Fold        
KrazyAce Fold        
muckfee Fold        
flynn37 Fold        
rancid Check        
Flop
   
  • 6
  • K
  • A
     
rancid Bet   £0.10 £0.30 £16.52
leigh1969 Call   £0.10 £0.40 £12.59
Turn
   
  • 10
     
rancid Check        
leigh1969 Bet   £0.20 £0.60 £12.39
rancid Raise   £0.60 £1.20 £15.92
leigh1969 Raise   £0.80 £2.00 £11.59
rancid Raise   £2.20 £4.20 £13.72
leigh1969 Call   £1.80 £6.00 £9.79
River
   
  • 4
     
rancid Bet   £4.50 £10.50 £9.22
leigh1969 Call   £4.50 £15.00 £5.29
rancid Show
  • 7
  • Q
     
leigh1969 Muck
  • J
  • 8
     
rancid Win Flush to the Ace £13.87   £23.09

Comments

  • walesboywalesboy Member Posts: 993
    edited November 2011
    pot bet on river?
    don't know opponent but would he have calleda shove on turn/river?

    nh though
  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited November 2011
    NH! He can only be calling the turn with a flush I would be tempted to shove with that board but pot bet min imo
  • jugglegeekjugglegeek Member Posts: 623
    edited November 2011
    I agree with the others. If he has the jack then he's likely to be calling any bet on the river and if he doesn't then he will fold. The turn action sugests he has the flush so I'd shove. Your bet size is not going to make much difference to his analysis of where he is in the hand. You are either bluffing or you have the nuts. Super polarised range therefore shove
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited November 2011
    With oppo stack size, can they just call on the river though ?
    Doesn't shove turn so didn't think oppo spade was that big, 9 or 10

    Maybe betting smaller induces shove but if oppo will call a shove then why doesn't oppo shove turn
  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Extracting max value - nut flush:
    With oppo stack size, can they just call on the river though ? Doesn't shove turn so didn't think oppo spade was that big, 9 or 10 Maybe betting smaller induces shove but if oppo will call a shove then why doesn't oppo shove turn
    Posted by rancid

    I think with the T it would be hard to fold to any bet and 9> is only going to call a value bet IMO but I guess it also depends on the player and your reads?

  • SJspanky1SJspanky1 Member Posts: 620
    edited November 2011
    I'm happy as played. A shove on the river could scare villain off and we want to get some more value after overtaking on the turn. I've cursed myself many a time for going for the whole lot when holding the nuts and losing a victim who would have been willing to call 1/2-2/3 pot bet. NH.

    In Response to Re: Extracting max value - nut flush:
    With oppo stack size, can they just call on the river though ? Doesn't shove turn so didn't think oppo spade was that big, 9 or 10 Maybe betting smaller induces shove but if oppo will call a shove then why doesn't oppo shove turn
    Posted by rancid
  • NColleyNColley Member Posts: 1,178
    edited November 2011
    I prob shove river, think it was clear on turn villain was not going to fold.
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited November 2011
    After that raise to 80p on turn from villain I make it MUCH more at least £3.50 as not many people make that raise and fold.

    If you raise more on turn you can shove river as should have pot bet behind, still as played I still shove river as if they call £4.50 they call shove.
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