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2 hands from nl50

pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
edited November 2011 in The Poker Clinic
1st hand, only been on table about 5mins. to be fair i wasnt going to call the allin before huuume jammed, was this wrong
pod1Small blind £0.25£0.25£47.75
JSpinbackBig blind £0.50£0.75£27.09
 Your hole cards
  • K
  • J
   
huuuuumeRaise £1.50£2.25£89.40
paul2603Fold    
pod1Call £1.25£3.50£46.50
JSpinbackRaise £3.00£6.50£24.09
huuuuumeCall £2.00£8.50£87.40
pod1Call £2.00£10.50£44.50
Flop
  
  • 4
  • Q
  • K
   
pod1Check    
JSpinbackBet £5.25£15.75£18.84
huuuuumeCall £5.25£21.00£82.15
pod1Call £5.25£26.25£39.25
Turn
  
  • 2
   
pod1Check    
JSpinbackAll-in £18.84£45.09£0.00
huuuuumeAll-in £82.15£127.24£0.00
pod1Fold    
huuuuumeUnmatched bet £63.31£63.93£63.31
JSpinbackShow
  • 10
  • 10
   
huuuuumeShow
  • K
  • J
   
River
  
  • 8
   
huuuuumeWinPair of Kings£62.13 £125.44
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited November 2011
    should i have got more outta this and w
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    pj_guzdzSmall blind £0.25£0.25£50.00
    LUCKBOX89Big blind £0.50£0.75£49.50
     Your hole cards
    • 4
    • A
    		   
    WA73RB0YRaise £1.50£2.25£57.33
    huuuuumeFold    
    paul2603Fold    
    pod1Call £1.50£3.75£49.62
    pj_guzdzFold    
    LUCKBOX89Fold    
    Flop
      
    • 10
    • 4
    • 4
    		   
    WA73RB0YBet £2.50£6.25£54.83
    pod1Call £2.50£8.75£47.12
    Turn
      
    • 3
    		   
    WA73RB0YCheck    
    pod1Check    
    River
      
    • Q
    		   
    WA73RB0YBet £5.00£13.75£49.83
    pod1Raise £14.38£28.13£32.74
    WA73RB0YCall £9.38£37.51£40.45
    pod1Show
    • 4
    • A
    		   
    WA73RB0YMuck
    • J
    • J
    		   
    pod1WinFlush to the Ace£35.71 £68.45
    hat was the best way to do it?
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  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited November 2011
    Hand 1 - Really don't like call/call preflop from the SB with this hand.  Either 3bet the first chance you get or fold the second time round after calling.  As played you have to fold to the two all-ins.

    Hand 2 - I'm betting the turn purely because I bet all my flop floats to a check and I have to balance the big with the small.  Other than that hand 2 ok, slight question mark over flatting pre with a rag suited ace as we're 100 BB deep.  I'd rather we were deeper but I guess it's fine.
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited November 2011
     I'm betting the turn purely because I bet all my flop floats to a check and I have to balance the big with the small.   
    please could you explain this  tommy tnx phil
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  • huuuuumehuuuuume Member Posts: 569
    edited November 2011
    hand 1 - if you hid the guys name i would give more info but im never ever behind against him there.  i was more concerned about what you had but cos you flatted the flop i isolated to take away flush/straight draws.  against my shove there you cant call.

    hand 2 - dont know the villain too much but you could have gotten more value from him there.  barrel away turn and river for value.  i think he reraises you on the turn there a good % of the time from some of the hands i played against him.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited November 2011
    fold pre (or 3b) to huuumes raise
    id also say fold pre in hand2 but i do love small soooooted aces.

    i think hand2 postflop is fine w/o reads
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited November 2011
    thanks for feedback guys and gals. ps regarding small suited aces, they are my only vice in life lolraise!!
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited November 2011
    Why wud u ever not bet that turn w/ A4?
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited November 2011
     i just find SOMETIMES if you check turn after flatting/rasing pre and post  it makes it look like you have given up on pot and it draws a bigger bet from them on the river.
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  • 12671267 Member Posts: 936
    edited November 2011
    Hand 1-   Fold or raise pre.  Dont like the call.

    hand 2-   got to bet the turn about 3/4 pot,  if u had it would have been interesting to see if he was check raising.  Could have scooped a huge pot !
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited November 2011
    because dohhhhh when ppl cbet tht flop and check the turn they are most likely check/folding ?
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited November 2011
    so there jj!!! lol
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited November 2011
    1. calling the open pre is marginal, definitely fold to 3bet. Turn idk, its prob a fold but if I play KJ this way Im prob stacking

    2. fold pre readless.

    raise flop for value and to induce spazzes.
     
    bet turn, I dont hate the check, but you leave yourself very little chanve of stacking villain when you check as check behind then raise river looks very strong
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  • RandomRivRandomRiv Member Posts: 90
    edited November 2011

    Hand 1 - Danger hand in worst position fold pre flop. Certainly folding flop
    Hand 2 - I think the call is fine in position pre flop as long as you don't get carried away if an ace drops and your playing the hand in the hope of flopping a monster/flush/str8 etc I would of played it the same way but can see betting the turn being good play also

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