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4NL - Minraise on river - Thoughts Please??
Lambert180
Member Posts: 12,197
What do you guys think of this? To be honest, I'm clearly too tired and need to leave the tables because I genuinely thought I had the nuts on the river and didn't even notice the 89 to beat me lol. If I had been more awake and noticed this, is there any value to shoving or should I be worried about the min-raise on the river.... obviously at the time I wasn't scared cos I thougt I had the nuts lol
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| jeffrey1965 | Small blind | £0.02 | £0.02 | £1.76 | |
| Lambert180 | Big blind | £0.04 | £0.06 | £3.97 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| Annie54 | Call | £0.04 | £0.10 | £3.03 | |
| jeffrey1965 | Call | £0.02 | £0.12 | £1.74 | |
| Lambert180 | Check | ||||
| Flop | |||||
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| jeffrey1965 | Check | ||||
| Lambert180 | Bet | £0.08 | £0.20 | £3.89 | |
| Annie54 | Raise | £0.16 | £0.36 | £2.87 | |
| jeffrey1965 | Call | £0.16 | £0.52 | £1.58 | |
| Lambert180 | Call | £0.08 | £0.60 | £3.81 | |
| Turn | |||||
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| jeffrey1965 | Check | ||||
| Lambert180 | Check | ||||
| Annie54 | Check | ||||
| River | |||||
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| jeffrey1965 | Check | ||||
| Lambert180 | Bet | £0.76 | £1.36 | £3.05 | |
| Annie54 | Raise | £1.52 | £2.88 | £1.35 | |
| jeffrey1965 | Fold | ||||
| Lambert180 | All-in | £3.05 | £5.93 | £0.00 | |
| Annie54 | All-in | £1.35 | £7.28 | £0.00 | |
| Lambert180 | Unmatched bet | £0.94 | £6.34 | £0.94 | |
| Lambert180 | Show |
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| Annie54 | Show |
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| Annie54 | Win | Straight to the 10 | £5.86 | £5.86 | |
Comments
But you called and the turn was checked so I would be making a smaller bet on the river to get value from anyone holding a king and I'm losing less against anyone with a higher str8.
He showed strength by raising the flop then all of a sudden he decides hang on no I haven't got a good hand best check on the turn. I would of put him on a draw either str8 or flush.
I prob check flop, once you bet calling minraise is fine imo, 3betting wont get enough folds at 4NL imo
Dont mind turn check if villain is likely to bet and your intention is to c/r, betting may be better at 4NL though
River getting it in is fine
Turn - check-raise is fine consider she was the last aggressor and you might be able to check-raise 2 people.
River - Lead is good and with reads you could somehow consider a flat. She reps EXACTLY 89 which is your problem. Would she ever check back the turn with a set? Do you think you could play TT this way? Maybe KT raising the flop for information blah blah then min-raising the riv? Readless, i prolly just stack off and pray she's played TT or KT or a set this way but you're definitely not fist-pump getting it in after she minraises you.
Seen 4h5h
Think I should stop posting today lol r at least have another 5 coffee's first
The turn gives you the nuts but to the other players it's a blank. You should bet here because other players will call thinking that you are trying to rep the king with all sorts of rubbish. You should bet pot for value and also to make it a fishy looking as possible. You also need to protect against 89 for the bigger straight with an up and down and the flush draw and also the chance of the board pairing on the river for the boat if annie45 has the set we thought about on the flop.
That leaves any heart and any K,T,7,6,5 as scare cards for you on the river. You hand is the nuts but it's vulnerable to a card on the river. Ten is probs the least scary scare card but still.
On the river you make a sensible overbet since the only hand that beats you is 89 and at this level you will get called by all sorts. But you won't get raised very often on this board at NL4. When you get raised the guy pretty much always has a straight.
As played I would not have shoved on the end here. Just call the re-raise to lose the minimum. If you win the hand then make notes and move on. Your mistake was on the turn
bet big on turn - can't slow play here your hand is not big enough, don't like c/r here with this hand and that board -
just b/c on river, min raise means your beat or oppo is bluffing
I check flop.
Turn bet pot or more, most likely more.
River bet big get it IN !