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Call All In or Fold?

KKripplerKKrippler Member Posts: 321
edited November 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Hand History #440347590 (19:53 21/11/2011)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancezxghostxzSmall blind 30.0030.005087.50mac57Big blind 60.0090.004622.50 Your hole cards10Q   lea116311Fold    BARBIE59Fold    KKripplerRaise 180.00270.005175.00bigmoltFold    zxghostxzRaise 390.00660.004697.50mac57Fold    KKripplerCall 240.00900.004935.00Flop  J10Q   zxghostxzCheck    KKripplerBet 420.001320.004515.00zxghostxzCall 420.001740.004277.50Turn  6   zxghostxzCheck    KKripplerBet 600.002340.003915.00zxghostxzRaise 1200.003540.003077.50KKripplerCall 600.004140.003315.00River  3   zxghostxzAll-in 3077.507217.500.00KKripplerFold    zxghostxzMuck    zxghostxzWin 4140.00 4140.00zxghostxzReturn 3077.500.007217.5
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  • KKripplerKKrippler Member Posts: 321
    edited November 2011
    I know maybe dont raise pre, fold to re raise, What I want to know is could I have played the hand better post flop, n was it right to fold river.
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  • tripleb684tripleb684 Member Posts: 32
    edited November 2011
    fold, can't understand why you'd call the 3bet with that rubbish, he's obv beating you
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  • KKripplerKKrippler Member Posts: 321
    edited November 2011
    ya sorry should of limped.

    Honestly dont mind raise with Q,10 off, the re raise i should def fold.

    but am i always losing with the river shove.
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  • tripleb684tripleb684 Member Posts: 32
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Call All In or Fold?:
    ya sorry should of limped. Honestly dont mind raise with Q,10 off, the re raise i should def fold. but am i always losing with the river shove.
    Posted by KKrippler

    I'd wager you where losing pre-flop all the way to the river, nice advertising though ;)

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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited November 2011
    No, you should not have limped pre.

    Cant really quite explain why this annoys me.

    We have some tricky action through streets and we conclude that our best line was to limp pre....

    Limping pre is very very very rarely the best line.  Its just plain bad for most part.

    Fine to come in for a raise.  But when we meet resistance we need to decide what to do.  Do we want to play this hand IP vs a fellow deep player?  Maybe.

    As it stands we have to try and figure opponents 3betting range pre, then assess on streets. 
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  • KKripplerKKrippler Member Posts: 321
    edited November 2011
    Ya I was messin about the limp.

    Obv line of thinking is that he had Ace King, floppin a st8.

    Dont think u wd check call the flop with a set, board a bit too wet,
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited November 2011
    Bet he has AK, but the 3 doesn't change anything, If you call the turn bet you have to assume he's gonna shove then river, so either call both or fold turn
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited November 2011
    ahhh my bad.

    Its a hard board to read tbf.

    Prob why I'd fold to his 3bet pre.

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  • KKripplerKKrippler Member Posts: 321
    edited November 2011
    ya when he re raised me i knew i was prob behind, but i always end up call those annoyin min raises.

    N would have gone all the way if hit FH on river.

    Before I get brutalized, i was messin about the limp, seriously
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited November 2011

    opening pre is ok, dont mind folding, definitely fold to 3bet

    either fold turn or call it off. I prob call if I decide QT is good enough to call pre with

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  • ricky1984ricky1984 Member Posts: 140
    edited November 2011
    Fold pre and definitely fold river
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