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Played ok??

debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
edited November 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Forget the result as thats poker and it happens , but did i play it fine pre , post and after.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
debdobs_67 Small blind  15.00 15.00 1935.00
ricey54 Big blind  30.00 45.00 1500.00
 Your hole cards
  • A
  • J
   
Limp2Lose Raise  60.00 105.00 4140.00
jelly Fold     
NEEDHAM777 Call  60.00 165.00 6400.00
debdobs_67 Raise  165.00 330.00 1770.00
ricey54 Fold     
Limp2Lose Call  120.00 450.00 4020.00
NEEDHAM777 Call  120.00 570.00 6280.00
Flop
  
  • 4
  • J
  • 2
   
debdobs_67 Bet  570.00 1140.00 1200.00
Limp2Lose Fold     
NEEDHAM777 Call  570.00 1710.00 5710.00
Turn
  
  • 4
   
debdobs_67 All-in  1200.00 2910.00 0.00
NEEDHAM777 Call  1200.00 4110.00 4510.00
debdobs_67 Show
  • A
  • J
   
NEEDHAM777 Show
  • 4
  • K
   
River
  
  • 9
   
NEEDHAM777 Win Three 4s 4110.00  8620.00
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited November 2011
    i think you played it just fine. pot bet SHOULD of got rid of k4 on the flop. ul

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited November 2011
    Bet smaller otf, smaller on the turn, and put rest in on the river.

    330 or sumthin on the flop for me  . . . . .
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited November 2011
    You have a tricky stack to play.

    Got tbh, from the SB I likely flat here, but does depend on reads on opener and stationer.

    I dont really get the pot lead on flop.  Its pretty dry.  I'm more happy firing 325 - 375.  Seems like potting it is "IN" just now though.

    We are literally only called by better on turn.  I dont think we get called by a worse J.  But equally we arent likely firing to a reasonable bet.

    If the pot is scaled down, ie no open pot on flop, I think we can get away here on turn/river.

    UL tho.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Played ok??:
    You have a tricky stack to play. Got tbh, from the SB I likely flat here, but does depend on reads on opener and stationer. I dont really get the pot lead on flop.  Its pretty dry.  I'm more happy firing 325 - 375.  Seems like potting it is "IN" just now though. We are literally only called by better on turn.  I dont think we get called by a worse J.  But equally we arent likely firing to a reasonable bet. If the pot is scaled down, ie no open pot on flop, I think we can get away here on turn/river. UL tho.
    Posted by AMYBR
    See this is the thing at the mo , if i play weak i get buried and if i play ultra aggresive i get buried , so my question is therefore do i play somewhere inbetween ??
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Played ok??:
    In Response to Re: Played ok?? : See this is the thing at the mo , if i play weak i get buried and if i play ultra aggresive i get buried , so my question is therefore do i play somewhere inbetween ??
    Posted by debdobs_67
    From everything I've seen of you debs you seem to no where your are in hands, being very good at reading ranges. 

    Personally, I like to keep pots under control, which we cant do when opening pot.  I mean I dont see the the payoff, in terms of losing customers vs pot control.  We want people to call our bets.  How often do we get two or 3 streets at pot?  We take away opponents options to play back at us through streets also.  And if they call and bink, were screwed.

    As asked, maybe look inbetween.  Vary your size for the stakes, but consistently.
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited November 2011
    AMYBR mostly plays live from what i know, and does pretty well at it. I think I remember him saying a while ago that he just doesn't seem to be able to adapt his game to the online format.

    Debs - Yeah I think it's a bit dodgy making such a small raise from the SB with AJoff. Thanks to the 2 min raisers, you're gonna be getting called pretty light when you've got a medium hand in a horrible position. After that you're just unlucky, if a pot bet doesnt get rid of the K4 then nothing will.
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited November 2011
    I'm a big time online flamer.  As above, I just dont play great or focus well online.  Plus my online BRM is a joke.  If I won a million in a month I'd lose 3 by the end of the next one.

    Plus I feel my strengths are reading and deconstructing hands, which you just cant exploit online.  Plus (lol) i dont give online players enough credit, so call far lighter than live :p
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited November 2011
    That being said I do play here from time to time.

    I think the people are great and there is a lot for everyone to learn here.  I've developed the technical aspect of my game immensily.  Online is the better technical game.  Live being the better psychological game IMO.

    I post alot of my worst live beats in here to be picked apart, and offer my take on the online ones. 

    The best way to improve anyones game is to play and discuss all aspects of poker with poker players.  So I feel I get the best of it here.

    Team51 FTW :p
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited November 2011
    readless:

    flat pre as standard imo, 3betting AJ folds out most worse and gets called by most better hands. 3betting it is fine with good reads

    Once you 3bet you are always going broke on that board. Bet smaller on flop, it allows him think he can bluff, its pretty dry and you can still easily gt your stack across the line
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