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What to do NOW??
debdobs_67
Member Posts: 3,615
It was top 20 left in a b/h last nite , so already cashed and took 7 heads as well.
As soon as i call the raise pre i am obv set mining , my assumption that on prvious hands oppo has 2 high cards.
Flop is pretty gd for me , as is the turn , i dont shove back the turn as i do not want to force him to call and bink the river and as i still have 12k back if its an A or K on river i am willing to fold and still have a playable stack left.
So the river comes and when he shoves here should i reavaluate ?? Did he have a high pair pre ?? Does he have a 10 here ?? Has he already got a set and was milking me ??
You decide.
As soon as i call the raise pre i am obv set mining , my assumption that on prvious hands oppo has 2 high cards.
Flop is pretty gd for me , as is the turn , i dont shove back the turn as i do not want to force him to call and bink the river and as i still have 12k back if its an A or K on river i am willing to fold and still have a playable stack left.
So the river comes and when he shoves here should i reavaluate ?? Did he have a high pair pre ?? Does he have a 10 here ?? Has he already got a set and was milking me ??
You decide.
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| seano85 | Small blind | 400.00 | 400.00 | 11162.50 | |
| STEPH123 | Big blind | 800.00 | 1200.00 | 16531.25 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| honeybunch | Fold | ||||
| Shankiiies | Raise | 1600.00 | 2800.00 | 15460.00 | |
| debdobs_67 | Call | 1600.00 | 4400.00 | 19930.00 | |
| seano85 | Fold | ||||
| STEPH123 | Fold | ||||
| Flop | |||||
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| Shankiiies | Bet | 2400.00 | 6800.00 | 13060.00 | |
| debdobs_67 | Call | 2400.00 | 9200.00 | 17530.00 | |
| Turn | |||||
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| Shankiiies | Bet | 4600.00 | 13800.00 | 8460.00 | |
| debdobs_67 | Call | 4600.00 | 18400.00 | 12930.00 | |
| River | |||||
| |||||
| Shankiiies | All-in | 8460.00 | 26860.00 | 0.00 | |
| debdobs_67 | ???? | ||||
Comments
Dont know the player, but hes most likely got you beat, unless its a missed flush and hes jamming the river, very sticky. You look ok on the flop, but most likely your way behind already. Hard to say, either raise and fold to more aggro on flop or call flop & fold turn.. you should never carry on with any more betting, unless you turn a miracle 6 or you know this player to play a flush draw this way.
You calling down looks like your chasing the flush to him, so its a good river for him to jam.
Secondly, if you think he will call a shove on the turn with 2 overcards, then the bolded reason for not shoving doesnt make sense, ie you're scared that he will suck out on you. (fwiw i wouldnt shove turn)
I dont mind the call on the flop, but without reads im folding the turn here.
On the river, you're only really beating busted flush draws. AhxH.
Only posted all the info in the op cos i wanted you to all know what was in my mind throughout , but what im unsure of is DO i call the all-in or not ?
PS blinds were 400/800 and my stack was 21,530 , so i was still 27bb's deep
Pre: You are not deep enough to setmine. Obv though you were not setmining as you called two strrets without improving. Without specific reads on how he plays postflop I either shove or fold pre (I prob shove or fold anyway tbh)
Postflop is really read dependent, if I call turn I prob call river.
I think in this kind of spot you need a really clear plan for the hand if you are flatting pre so shallow, and its very hard to have a good plan unless you have clear reads for postflop
Should be insta jam or auto fold dependant on his range and image.
As played shove flop.
Your better off turning your hand into a 3bet bluff from the button. Say 5200 to jam any flop.
But better to keep it simple.
He went on to finish 2nd so wp to him.
The next upset was vs same player 2 hands later i was taken out by him and all i could think was WHY WHY WHY did i not already have him outta there
Surely you start with a preflop range, narrow it down thru the streets according to action. If this indicates he has 2 overcards obv call river, but usually his opening range will include hands which will be better than no pair on river when he bets 3 streets
I know that i STILL cant believe i folded river after me just knowing he had missed , its just 1 of those things , 15 secs to think it through and i made a real real b a lls up of it.
I dont flat pre however.
We are only hero calling river.
If he has a hand like 7's we put him in a spot.
If that was your read pre, your still likely good, rather than letting cards come off to go behind, or letting him apply pressure through streets.
As played I am always reshoving flop, outcome regardless.