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There is no god given right to win!

margatemafmargatemaf Member Posts: 849
edited October 2009 in Poker Chat
Right i am sure my opinion on this will get up some peoples noses :( it is not meant as a personal attack on anyone it is just a view of what i see being posted :)

The amount of posts from people who put up hand histories regarding having top pairs being turned over by smaller pairs is astonishing at worst :) this is poker and gambling .... so my point of view is don't moan about it have a laugh at it instead ( unless your in final of the poker million )

It is not a divine right just because you have AA KK AK QQ that you should automatically win the pot, to win the pot you need the best 5 cards out of 7 and thats that really. People will call and thats a fact of life, the speculators and chancer's will hit and are entitled to hit if they pay their money.

There just seems to be a lot of people moaning about the software etc when they lose with a monster. It happens everyday to 1000's of people and even the pros get turned over in tournaments by chancer's and speculators. It may not be etiquette if someone has raised the blind 4 or 5 times and someone calls and keeps calling to the river and wins, but thats the game. i think it is called the new breed of poker player. Wether it is right or wrong is not for debate. The fact of the matter is it's your job to spot these people and either avoid them or roll with the punches. if you can't avoid them because your in a tournament then adapt your game to suit, but they have paid their money and are entitled to play any way they want.

The thing that makes me laugh is when gus hansen or phil ivey do it, they are seen as a genius. Ordinary Joe does it and he needs to be burned at the stake. The other thing that makes me laugh too is that when people win with a monster and the speculators don't hit and they walk away with a nice stack they don't moan then .... so what's that all about?.

Just a quick example - i had my first live casino tourney 2 weeks ago and i was lucky to be dealt AA and raised the blind 5 times and a dude called. Flop come down and was no use to man nor beast. The caller went all in so i called him. He had k3 what come down on the turn and river KK!! What are the chances of that. Sure i was annoyed at the time but afterwards i thought fairplay to you. I calmed down after a couple of minutes and put the same caller out after the break. Poker is swings and roundabouts in my opinion and is very much similar to life. some days are good and some days are bad ..... unless your me ... then my motto to life is " Everyday's a good day! "

I am fully prepared to get hammered here, but i will still be smiling!! so the tin hat's on give it your best :)))))
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  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited October 2009
    I can only take exception with one thing there Marge. Poker is a game of wager, it's not gambling. Otherwise I'm with you all the way.
  • margatemafmargatemaf Member Posts: 849
    edited October 2009
    my apologies good lady :) wager it is then :)
  • loonytoonsloonytoons Member Posts: 4,270
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win!:
    I can only take exception with one thing there Marge. Poker is a game of wager, it's not gambling. Otherwise I'm with you all the way.
    Posted by elsadog
    Its not marge you nutter, its margate mafia lol (I FINK)
  • namesb0ndnamesb0nd Member Posts: 402
    edited October 2009
    great post,unfortunatly people complaining is also part of poker.If i get called by someone when i have aces i love it!And if they happen to beat me then fine,i know i will beat them the next 4 times on average.It is very annoying when you finally get those aces you have been waiting for in a tourney,only to have them cracked and you get knocked out,but thats poker folks.
  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win!:
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win! : Its not marge you nutter, its margate mafia lol (I FINK)
    Posted by loonytoons

    She will always be Marge to me.
  • loonytoonsloonytoons Member Posts: 4,270
    edited October 2009
    Please refrain from making future comments about me and elsadog ( chancers and speculators) i wont say which is which, however if you do it again im telling my mum on you.
  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win!:
    great post,unfortunatly people complaining is also part of poker.If i get called by someone when i have aces i love it!And if they happen to beat me then fine,i know i will beat them the next 4 times on average.It is very annoying when you finally get those aces you have been waiting for in a tourney,only to have them cracked and you get knocked out,but thats poker folks.
    Posted by namesb0nd

    A very pragmatic view there Basil.
  • Grimstar30Grimstar30 Member Posts: 1,400
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win!:
    my apologies good lady :) wager it is then :)
    Posted by margatemaf
    ... and its not a lady its ALAN! lol
  • margatemafmargatemaf Member Posts: 849
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win!:
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win! : Its not marge you nutter, its margate mafia lol (I FINK)
    Posted by loonytoons
    it's no problem loonytoons, i have been answering to OI you!! the last 14 years lol :) anyways on other forums it's been Marge or M&M :)
  • TorryladdTorryladd Member Posts: 503
    edited October 2009

    If the game was played in a robotic way would be online playing something else .

    As for K3 yukky hand lol  xx

  • margatemafmargatemaf Member Posts: 849
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win!:
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win! : ... and its not a lady its ALAN! lol
    Posted by Grimstar30
    OUCH!! busted!! lol sorry alan :(
  • margatemafmargatemaf Member Posts: 849
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win!:
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win! : She will always be Marge to me.
    Posted by elsadog
    Marge is a dude lol :)
  • margatemafmargatemaf Member Posts: 849
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win!:
    If the game was played in a robotic way would be online playing something else . As for K3 yukky hand lol  xx
    Posted by Torryladd
    K3 Them's the breaks :) once again sorry for last night tory!! :)
  • loonytoonsloonytoons Member Posts: 4,270
    edited October 2009

    I swear with the best of them when i get a bad beat,i sometimes huff, i sometimes think you assole, but what i never do is post any of it on the forums or in the chat box. I would never go to area 51 with my bad luck story and shout cheat this, fix that, this way i keep some self respect to myself.

  • MICKYBLUEMICKYBLUE Member Posts: 2,035
    edited October 2009
    k3 a monster always hit runners
  • margatemafmargatemaf Member Posts: 849
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win!:
    I swear with the best of them when i get a bad beat,i sometimes huff, i sometimes think you assole, but what i never do is post any of it on the forums or in the chat box. I would never go to area 51 with my bad luck story and shout cheat this, fix that, this way i keep some self respect to myself.
    Posted by loonytoons
    just gotta go with the flow loonytoons :) you start getting stressed about it all, its just gonna get your whole game messed up!! i personally when that guy hit kkk at casino just put my music back on and re-grouped and got back in the zone!! :)
  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win!:
    Please refrain from making future comments about me and elsadog ( chancers and speculators) i wont say which is which, however if you do it again im telling my mum on you.
    Posted by loonytoons

    What!!!! That wasn't me you fool that was you and the donkey.
  • vaigretvaigret Member Posts: 16,380
    edited October 2009

    The most sense written on this forum ever i would say, well done Margate.

    The thing is we will still get all the bad beat posters maligning their opponents who paid for the chance to beat them.

    When are people going to realise their wagering on monsterhands does not guarantee they are going to win them, just their hands and good wagers raise their chances.

    Finally whilst I understand that going all in pre flop with a "good" hand is an obvious ploy and the odds might be in your favour, remember you are wagering highly on at least seven cards you haven't even seen. 

    Even though the above suggests i am holier than thou, it doesn't stop me from swearing under my breath when i get a "bad beat". It just inspires me to get better/luckier/physic

    God bless you all -Father Vaigret 

  • dav1964dav1964 Member Posts: 2,526
    edited October 2009
    RIGHT IM GONNA SAY THIS ONLY ONCE MARGATEMAFIA.........OI YOU........GREAT POST.
  • margatemafmargatemaf Member Posts: 849
    edited October 2009
    In Response to Re: There is no god given right to win!:
    The most sense written on this forum ever i would say, well done Margate. The thing is we will still get all the bad beat posters maligning their opponents who paid for the chance to beat them. When are people going to realise their wagering on monsterhands does not guarantee they are going to win them, just their hands and good wagers raise their chances. Finally whilst I understand that going all in pre flop with a "good" hand is an obvious ploy and the odds might be in your favour, remember you are wagering highly on at least seven cards you haven't even seen.  Even though the above suggests i am holier than thou, it doesn't stop me from swearing under my breath when i get a "bad beat". It just inspires me to get better/luckier/physic God bless you all -Father Vaigret 
    Posted by vaigret

    blimey a well done from a man of the cloth!! does this mean i am going to be blessed at the table!!! lol i need your blessings for sunday evening father, if you wouldn't mind :) lol ..... just kidding i know your not a real priest :)
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