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DYM - JJ in SB facing 3x raise from Btn sat deep.

Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
edited December 2011 in The Poker Clinic
No reads.

So basically I'm cruising into the money as it stands but it's 4 handed and I surely can't fold JJ so what's best play here?
Dudeskin8 Small blind   15.00 15.00 5690.00
debora1964 Big blind   30.00 45.00 1950.00
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • J
     
WOBLY57 Fold        
mrchalky Raise   90.00 135.00 1575.00
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2011
    I would 3 bet to 240ish, obviously would be villain dependent but readless.

    Based on ur stack i dont think its bad if u get in preflop here as long as villain isnt Mr nit and only played 1 hand before
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited December 2011
    Am all in!
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited December 2011
    fold
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM - JJ in SB facing 3x raise from Btn sat deep.:
    fold
    Posted by rancid
    Can understand this too, think theres an argument for folding, calling or re-raising here

    tough spot so maybe fold is better due to risk aversion post in JC thread he'll know 
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  • ricky1984ricky1984 Member Posts: 140
    edited December 2011
    Definitely re-raise to about 240. If he shoves, i can prob find the fold button. How much did the other guy have?
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM - JJ in SB facing 3x raise from Btn sat deep.:
    In Response to Re: DYM - JJ in SB facing 3x raise from Btn sat deep. : Can understand this too, think theres an argument for folding, calling or re-raising here tough spot so maybe fold is better due to risk aversion post in JC thread he'll know 
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN

    sit out unless your premium, not calling and playing JJ oop -what's the point )
    Don't even like 3 betting and either getting a fold or a call 
    3 bet, oppo shoves - you fold - chips wasted ) only 3 betting to get it in

    fold is just 2 ez with that stack - DYM foldage mindset !!!

    Shoving is just asking to be called by better )






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  • gracie24gracie24 Member Posts: 227
    edited December 2011
    Listen to rancid!!
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited December 2011
    call
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited December 2011
    I would prob call to set-mine, 90 chips doesn't affect your stack, no point building the pot yet, although I am not sure what I would do on a 10 high flop... I would probably check/raise bigggg
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM - JJ in SB facing 3x raise from Btn sat deep.:
    call
    Posted by SHANXTA

    set mining ? or just playing pokers post flop - are we happy stacking on a ten high flop ?

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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited December 2011
    In Response to DYM - JJ in SB facing 3x raise from Btn sat deep.:
    No reads. So basically I'm cruising into the money as it stands but it's 4 handed and I surely can't fold JJ so what's best play here? Dudeskin8 Small blind   15.00 15.00 5690.00 debora1964 Big blind   30.00 45.00 1950.00   Your hole cards J J       WOBLY57 Fold         mrchalky Raise   90.00 135.00 1575.00 Dudeskin8
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    This is another tricky spot for me. It's also potentially a leak in my game as the arguments for folding are so strong but I have to say I 3 bet bigger than usual in this spot, with the intention of getting it in pre or getting it in on most flops. Think JJ is just about strong enough to do this and we still have 4k back if it doesn't work out. I'm never raise/folding or calling here though personally. If I don't 3 bet I just fold.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited December 2011
    even in a dym raise/folding is surely not good readless?

    Some people who know about dyms seem to disagree, but I would need a good reason not to stick the lot in here. 3b/c sounds fine too
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited December 2011
    Actually leaning towards calling now, and playing some post flop poker
    Don't think sitting out and folding anything but KK/AA this early is bad either

    Depends how comfortable you are playing JJ post flop OOP




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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited December 2011
    Well I sort of got confused as never usually have this many chips and just saw it as a chance to kill it off and still be alive if I fail, must run better.
    Dudeskin8 Small blind   15.00 15.00 5690.00
    debora1964 Big blind   30.00 45.00 1950.00
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • J
    		     
    WOBLY57 Fold        
    mrchalky Raise   90.00 135.00 1575.00
    Dudeskin8 All-in   5690.00 5825.00 0.00
    debora1964 Fold        
    mrchalky All-in   1575.00 7400.00 0.00
    Dudeskin8 Unmatched bet   4040.00 3360.00 4040.00
    Dudeskin8 Show
    • J
    • J
    		     
    mrchalky Show
    • Q
    • A
    		     
    Flop
       
    • 2
    • 4
    • 3
    		     
    Turn
       
    • 10
    		     
    River
       
    • 5
    		     
    mrchalky Win Straight to the 5 3360.00   3360.00
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: DYM - JJ in SB facing 3x raise from Btn sat deep.:
    In Response to Re: DYM - JJ in SB facing 3x raise from Btn sat deep. : set mining ? or just playing pokers post flop - are we happy stacking on a ten high flop ?
    Posted by rancid
    both really, i'm more than happy 2b in this spot vs most players i come up against, vs a few regs i mite literally just fold any flop that i dnt set up.

    i see no value in gettin it in 4 an extra 1.5k chips as i'm cashin such a huge % from this spot anyway, n im guessin the range of hands an unknown will get 1.5k in level 2 on the bubble is pretty tight
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited December 2011
    I think this was just bad luck and calling an all in with AQ so early in a DYM is crazy, my view bad call got lucky wp Dude and ul!
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited December 2011
    I would defo just flat and play a flop

    no need to ship it at all here
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