20NL Line check

grantorino

Not long at table, no real reads on villian. Seems tight, definitely not a serial limpcaller

I usually 4b/c pre, and prob should have here, decided to flat ip though

Flop is standard imo

Turn is the main question, should I be calling here readless at 20 NL on this site?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
x	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£18.03
FORDYCE	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£20.10
	Your hole cards	Q Q
grantorino	Raise		£0.80	£1.10	£23.12
ZAB	Fold
pod1	Fold
x	Raise		£2.50	£3.60	£15.53
FORDYCE	Fold
grantorino	Call		£1.80	£5.40	£21.32
Flop
		4 J 8
x	Bet		£4.05	£9.45	£11.48
grantorino	Call		£4.05	£13.50	£17.27
Turn
		6
x	All-in		£11.48	£24.98	£0.00
grantorino	Call		£11.48	£36.46	£5.79

freechips1

Key to the hand is the 3bet from the sb.  If he is tight he aint doing this with K,J or A,J i think he flats with these.  So it leaves overpair AA KK QQ pos JJ nar, actually not JJ, dont think he bets turn so big, prob bets £5 on turn with JJ.
Could also be AKhh or AQhh.
20nl a 3bet from sb is always super narrow range.

pod1

if its who i think its is (isle of man ...) then is very aggro unless he comes up against resistance. he was on 4 of my tables and once he r

FORDYCE	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£20.61
grantorino	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£20.65
ricardo354	Big blind		£0.20	£0.50	£9.80
	Your hole cards	2 Q
ZAB	Fold
ricardo354	Check
pod1	Fold
	Raise		£0.80	£1.30	£32.76
FORDYCE	Fold
grantorino	Fold
ricardo354	Call		£0.60	£1.90	£9.20
Flop
		K 7 8
ricardo354	Check
	Bet		£1.43	£3.33	£31.33
ricardo354	Call		£1.43	£4.76	£7.77
Turn
		3
ricardo354	Check
	Bet		£3.57	£8.33	£27.76
ricardo354	Raise		£7.14	£15.47	£0.63
	Fold
ricardo354	Muck
ricardo354	Win		£11.30		£11.93
ricardo354	Return		£3.57	£0.60	£15.50

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Nextaises flop he just kept firing.example :

pod1

ob he plays kk aa ak like this but i think he has a wider range than me :-). against him i think im calling this off.

grantorino

In Response to Re: 20NL Line check:

Key to the hand is the 3bet from the sb.  If he is tight he aint doing this with K,J or A,J i think he flats with these.  So it leaves overpair AA KK QQ pos JJ nar, actually not JJ, dont think he bets turn so big, prob bets £5 on turn with JJ. Could also be AKhh or AQhh. 20nl a 3bet from sb is always super narrow range.
Posted by freechips1

Yeah even if I get it in pre Im not fistpumping when he 3b my utg open oop. This is partly why I flatted as I wasnt sure he wouldnt 3b/f stuff like AQ,TT etc.

What would you expect his range to be pre?

Do people double barrell AK often in this spot?

I know these are very general questions havent played much here, just looking for an idea of what I should expect to see him turn over

freechips1

Pre flop 3 bet Range of AK, AQ (some 20nl regs/nits wont 3bet AQ OOP) and JJ+ abit unsure about tens, some will some wont, also some wont 3bet JJ oop.
If you was sat deep 200bb+ then i dont think AK or AQ would barrel the turn but in this hand with stack size i think he has no choice but to shove turn with AK.
I like the flat pre and i too am calling on turn, why? I cant/dont like/hate folding.
I think we are a small dog vs his range.